Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-19-2014, 08:23 AM
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That is the first trip I have seen in ages that goes thru NY...
04-19-2014, 08:24 AM
Wind the clock beoch
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Exactly. You haven't heard a word about it from your union. The word on the street is that dalpa and the company have agreed that no grievance will be filed as long as they are still talking. Can anyone confirm that?
Sailing is hedging his position. Notice that he said "around May 1st."
I've asked sailing before about his source regarding his assertion that dalpa will file an MEC group grievance at the expiration of 120 days. So far, he's refused to answer the question. So how about it sailing, what's your source?
Sailing is hedging his position. Notice that he said "around May 1st."
I've asked sailing before about his source regarding his assertion that dalpa will file an MEC group grievance at the expiration of 120 days. So far, he's refused to answer the question. So how about it sailing, what's your source?
04-19-2014, 08:27 AM
Wind the clock beoch
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04-19-2014, 08:38 AM
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From WSC: "On an X-day has no obligation to be contactable or to be in a position to report for an inverse assignment."
These attempts from scheduling have been happening more than the pilot group is being led to believe. Threats, pressure and loss of pay are being applied. Know your contract, and call ALPA scheduling. As long as we keep falling for scheduling's fishing expeditions, we have no leverage and worse, you might do something illegal. Far 117 haas been relatively cost neutral mainly because we have not made a unified stand to operate 100% in accordance with the contract. I get it. No one likes to deal with the high pressure threats coming out of the CPO from your fellow seniority list members.
These attempts from scheduling have been happening more than the pilot group is being led to believe. Threats, pressure and loss of pay are being applied. Know your contract, and call ALPA scheduling. As long as we keep falling for scheduling's fishing expeditions, we have no leverage and worse, you might do something illegal. Far 117 haas been relatively cost neutral mainly because we have not made a unified stand to operate 100% in accordance with the contract. I get it. No one likes to deal with the high pressure threats coming out of the CPO from your fellow seniority list members.
Although a pilot has no obligation to be contactable on his x-days, is it possible (anyone know if it's FAR legal) that scheduling could assign (on your last on-call day when you ARE contactable) a 30-hr rest period that begins at midnight on your next to last x-day, plus the first 6 hours of your first on-call day and say "there's your 30 hour rest period"?
Or, even worse, could they assign the entire 30 hour rest period on your x-days (ending at midnight before you start LC on your first reserve day) BEFORE you begin your x-days?
I hope that's not the case, but you're right about the fact they have been doing some, shall we say, creative scheduling.
Here's one reason I don't think these two examples could fly. A pilot requesting either a YS or a GS for those days would be shown as "on rest" and would probably not show up in their coverage list.
04-19-2014, 08:44 AM
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Sailing was saying that long call would be "voluntary" if we win this negotiation/grievance. I'll go out on a limb and say that I am pretty sure the company wouldn't want that. OK.. he says that we are only allowed 6/7 SCs/month. I would think you could pretty much count on 7 if this goes thru as he is saying. The company would then want more in the next contract, or we would have to provide some methodology to ensure that LC reserve is not "voluntary". At this point, I do not know enough about the intricacies about this, but it seems that sans relief on the "voluntary" aspect of this, we are gonna see lots more SCs....
04-19-2014, 08:48 AM
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04-19-2014, 08:53 AM
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Sailing was saying that long call would be "voluntary" if we win this negotiation/grievance. I'll go out on a limb and say that I am pretty sure the company wouldn't want that. OK.. he says that we are only allowed 6/7 SCs/month. I would think you could pretty much count on 7 if this goes thru as he is saying. The company would then want more in the next contract, or we would have to provide some methodology to ensure that LC reserve is not "voluntary". At this point, I do not know enough about the intricacies about this, but it seems that sans relief on the "voluntary" aspect of this, we are gonna see lots more SCs....
04-19-2014, 08:57 AM
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...is it possible (anyone know if it's FAR legal) that scheduling could assign (on your last on-call day when you ARE contactable) a 30-hr rest period that begins at midnight on your next to last x-day, plus the first 6 hours of your first on-call day and say "there's your 30 hour rest period"?
He certainly should, so long as he does not need the rest to be legal for the YS/GS award.
04-19-2014, 08:59 AM
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04-19-2014, 09:14 AM
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Thinking of using a "Fly confirmed for less" ticket as a backup to get to LHR in June. Can anyone tell me if those tickets are refundable? The online reference is a lot of mumbo jumbo.
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