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Old 04-19-2014, 05:30 AM
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Followup to my previous post. All of you who answered are correct. I called scheduling this morning and they said that no they can not assign rest like that. They restarted the 30 hour clock going forward.

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Say you are on a single X day when scheduling calls to leave a message assigning rest starting at midnight after the X day till 6 am to get a 30 hour break.

If you wait till 2 am after the X day ends to acknowledge the rest, did you just break the rest period and negate the 30 consecutive hour break?

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Old 04-19-2014, 05:41 AM
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Ruh roh!! Hope whatever it was gt worked out:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/securi...000910753.html
The real news in this story is that we flew a 737 flight with 9 empty seats!
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Old 04-19-2014, 05:51 AM
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Stupid question for those of you with higher math skills! Do you audit your pay stubs? If so, can you explain to me what I'm missing when I add up my (Pretax Ins & 401K + Taxes + Deductions) - (Gross Earnings) = Does not equal my direct deposit. What am I missing? Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-19-2014, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ExAF
We need to stand up for the contract and not let a policy memo change our PWA.
Normally that would be the union's job.
Under "constructive engagement" apparently not.
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Normally that would be the union's job.
Under "constructive engagement" apparently not.
I guess you missed all the letters put out on the subject. They are going to protect all the pilots involved. A choice was made that the fastest way to get the pilots paid was through the 117 negotiations. If there is not a successful outcome to that then a grievance will be filed around 1 May. We should prevail in that but it's not a slam dunk. If we win the grievance then long call reserve ceases to exist at Delta and they will have to use short calls and massive reroutes to cover the flying. If we lose the companies interpretation becomes law.

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Old 04-19-2014, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If there is not a successful outcome to that then a grievance will be filed around 1 May. We should prevail in that but it's not a slam dunk. .
That's the first I've heard of a May 1 deadline. Good to know.
I think contract law is pretty clear on the subject. We will no longer have a long call. The company will just have to cover their trips with short calls, green slips and reroutes.
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Tear tattoos? Might want to read up on what they usually mean.
"Originally placed in prison to signify that the bearer was owned by a fellow prisoner. In prison terms "there *****." (sic) The tear drop signifies that pain and humiliation one would feel after being "turned out" in prison. The tattoo is placed on the face to further humiliate the victim and mark them in a place where they could not cover the mark." Urban Dictionary

I vote against tattoo tears. Fanny packs... not so much. We could chew on tooth pics since they don't make candy cigarettes anymore.
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
That's the first I've heard of a May 1 deadline. Good to know.
I think contract law is pretty clear on the subject. We will no longer have a long call. The company will just have to cover their trips with short calls, green slips and reroutes.
The deadline is driven by the contractual requirements in filing a grievance.
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
That's the first I've heard of a May 1 deadline. Good to know.
I think contract law is pretty clear on the subject. We will no longer have a long call. The company will just have to cover their trips with short calls, green slips and reroutes.
If we win long call would exist only on a strictly volunteer basis. The company lawyers feel they have grounds to prevail. I don't feel that is the case but there is a chance they could win. Call your reps for details.
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If we win the grievance then long call reserve ceases to exist at Delta and they will have to use short calls and massive reroutes to cover the flying. If we lose the companies interpretation becomes law.
This is starting to sound like a case of "be careful what you ask for". If what you say is true, then our reserve will be like American's, meaning all reserves are on short call. That sucks. period.

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If we win long call would exist only on a strictly volunteer basis. The company lawyers feel they have grounds to prevail. I don't feel that is the case but there is a chance they could win. Call your reps for details.
Who would then be the "volunteer"? The pilot, or the company?
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