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Old 04-17-2014, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by index
The same can be said for DALPA. They continue to ignore the problem--the one they created--label 5800+ fellow pilots as "scourge" and "pretenders," while doing business as usual, attacking all who dare say there are problems. If they simply REPRESENTED the pilots. It's really that simple.
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No kidding. As if the L&G needed more aggressive salesmen.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Not correct (sorry, no offense intended). ALPA has reserved all rights to file a grievance, thus placing the Company on notice that they feel the matter is actionable. ALPA has moved forward in good faith to try to resolve the issue (management initially thought there was not an issue, ALPA has convinced management to negotiate).

A negotiated agreement (certainty) is better than a grievance hearing (uncertainty). I've seen good grievances lose.
Well, I disagree but do not take offense. You can reserve all the rights you want to but my point was the impression it makes. As you saw from my post, I said this was an intangible and would not/could not be cited to justify anything, but it does leave an impression. And as it's my opinion as to how this could possibly influence minds involved in resolving a grievance there is no right or wrong. And if you don't think opinions matter in such circumstances just look at the SCOTUS. They have all manners of precedence to refer to and can back any vote of theirs up with legal citations, but in the end it usually comes down to their interpretation vs someone else's.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Well, almost free. I would think this is nearly what the spares are worth.



... and how much did we pay for ours? Wonder if we are writing down the residuals to avoid tax? We could almost buy these and use it for spares. I'd rather see them flying.

Isn't it amazing how the bottom dropped out of the 777-200 market?
All that magic stuff is expensive to maintain, no doubt. It's part of what killed the 757 vs. the 737.

I'm guessing the 787 will even cost more to maintain with more magic, carbon fiber patch kits, oh, and all the spare batteries!
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
ALPA has reserved all rights to file a grievance, thus placing the Company on notice that they feel the matter is actionable.
Where have you heard this rumor? I've also heard a rumor that DALPA will file a grievance in May if there is no resolution. The only place I've seen these rumors is on the forum, posted by hard-core ALPA supporters.

Why can't DALPA communicate its intent to us officially, if any of these rumors are, in fact, true? This whole fiasco has been entirely non-transparent.

p.s. "feel[ing]" the matter is actionable" and actually taking action are not the same.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370
Well I TOFTT... PD with CPR on my schedule... filed with ALPA ... hoping to get paid... apparently there are not that many of us. I would preferred if the grievance was filed (the contract is being violated) instead of an assessment by ALPA.
Thank you for standing up for our contract.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Well, I disagree but do not take offense. You can reserve all the rights you want to but my point was the impression it makes. As you saw from my post, I said this was an intangible and would not/could not be cited to justify anything, but it does leave an impression. And as it's my opinion as to how this could possibly influence minds involved in resolving a grievance there is no right or wrong. And if you don't think opinions matter in such circumstances just look at the SCOTUS. They have all manners of precedence to refer to and can back any vote of theirs up with legal citations, but in the end it usually comes down to their interpretation vs someone else's.
Gunship Guy,

The reason the Supreme Court gets to make interpretations is because that is their job description. They are kinda unique as Courts go, don't you think?

As for precedent, there is none. Action taken under a reservation of rights is not precedent. Wiki's your buddy Reservation of rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bet a negotiated resolution happens before we could get a grievance hearing....
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:11 AM
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So, 30 hour layover. Awesomeness. The plan? Sleep in!!!!



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Old 04-17-2014, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Harley
I just don't understand why we can't swap with the pot for a trip that is the same day trip, similar value, and over the same days as the one I have just because "reserve days are capped".
I may be missing something here, but if you are saying you have a 3 day trip next Monday and there is another 3 day trip in the pot on that same Monday, you can swap that trip no matter what the reserve levels are. (Assuming it is more than a day out). You could also swap the 3 day for a longer trip assuming it covered all the days that were even on reserves or less.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RonRicco
I may be missing something here, but if you are saying you have a 3 day trip next Monday and there is another 3 day trip in the pot on that same Monday, you can swap that trip no matter what the reserve levels are. (Assuming it is more than a day out). You could also swap the 3 day for a longer trip assuming it covered all the days that were even on reserves or less.
This is exactly the scenario that I'm using, but each time I try to swap it says "reserve days capped" as reason for denial of the swap. When I looked at the reserve coverage, they are below what is required for two of the days.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:43 AM
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RSV guys, have you used the templates on DLnet for recency and proficiency, if so have you got the trips you requested if not why not?

Thx.
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