Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-16-2014, 04:10 PM
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The "latest & greatest" about DAL, is that DAL will retire a sh!tload of pilots over the next 10 - 15 years. If you are fortunate to be hired now, you WILL be a Captain before other Legacy carriers. You CAN fly a WB if you wish, prior to retirement.
DAL isn't going anywhere. They are paying down debt & have positioned themselves to lead the industry for the foreseeable future. They know how to make money. What other airlines are on the S&P 500? Exactly.
Adding seats to compete with the LCCs will only increase their profits. They will post a $400 mil profit, while UAL posts a $400 loss for the first quarter.
If you're a young & looking for a good future.....beg borrow or steal a way into DAL. You will have to wear a hat, however.
DAL isn't going anywhere. They are paying down debt & have positioned themselves to lead the industry for the foreseeable future. They know how to make money. What other airlines are on the S&P 500? Exactly.
Adding seats to compete with the LCCs will only increase their profits. They will post a $400 mil profit, while UAL posts a $400 loss for the first quarter.
If you're a young & looking for a good future.....beg borrow or steal a way into DAL. You will have to wear a hat, however.
04-16-2014, 04:13 PM
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Many years ago, I heard that Boeing was going to whittle their fleet down to the 787 for their international jet, and a narrow body domestic version of the 787, (a plastic 737) same systems, same composite structure, etc. to replace the 737.
But that was before they lost their arse on this 787 debacle, first with being 3 years late to deliver, then by parking the entire fleet with the battery issues. I'm guessing they aren't going to spend a whole lot of money developing another new airframe, be it a narrowbody 757/737 replacement, (797?) when they are still selling 737's.
But that was before they lost their arse on this 787 debacle, first with being 3 years late to deliver, then by parking the entire fleet with the battery issues. I'm guessing they aren't going to spend a whole lot of money developing another new airframe, be it a narrowbody 757/737 replacement, (797?) when they are still selling 737's.
04-16-2014, 04:46 PM
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On a rotation, in the lower right there is your duty day then the contractual duty day. How is the duty day different from a FDP? Does one include the 45 mins after final landing and one doesn't or something to that effect?
04-16-2014, 04:48 PM
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USATODAY.com - Travel - News - Boeing's 757 lost sales to 737, production ending next year
Man, the last 757 turns 10 years old this year.
Man, the last 757 turns 10 years old this year.
04-16-2014, 04:51 PM
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Many years ago, I had on a SEA/ATL flight, the head of the design team for the 757. {They had let him go after slow initial sales}.It was his first ride. His only comment in ATL was: "Do they always land like that?" I thought my F/O was going to wet his pants laughing.
04-16-2014, 04:52 PM
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117 rules plus our contract would be exponentially more expensive if RSV folks were flying by the contract. We don't have the company over the barrel because not many are willing to be "hostages" in these negotiations. As stated before, if we knew our Union had our back, we would have more people acknowledging less than 10 hours and that would be causing massive pain with the company. Since we don't know the union's position, we have no one to cover our backs. I don't know what kind of legal trouble the Union would get in but so far we aren't taking advantage of this small opportunity of massive leverage.
04-16-2014, 04:54 PM
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Now that Boeing is run by McDonalds Douglas... is it possible that the once planned lift kit on the 737 that CAL/SWA nixed because it'd no longer be a single type, I wonder if that could still happen.
Lift it to put big engines on it, have a differences course, call it a day. It's the McDonalds way.
Lift it to put big engines on it, have a differences course, call it a day. It's the McDonalds way.
04-16-2014, 05:01 PM
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A ship without a rudder... hits stuff.
04-16-2014, 05:20 PM
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The Russkies had some great aerospace engineers. If I were them, I'd build a world beating narrowbody/widebody composite 757/767 replacement. Add some Rolls Royce powerplants and bury Boeing's antique domestic product along with their anti-American anti-union backwardsass accountant driven product non-development culture. That'd be some $h'+!
04-16-2014, 05:28 PM
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117 rules plus our contract would be exponentially more expensive if RSV folks were flying by the contract. We don't have the company over the barrel because not many are willing to be "hostages" in these negotiations. As stated before, if we knew our Union had our back, we would have more people acknowledging less than 10 hours and that would be causing massive pain with the company. Since we don't know the union's position, we have no one to cover our backs. I don't know what kind of legal trouble the Union would get in but so far we aren't taking advantage of this small opportunity of massive leverage.
Like you said, guys have zero faith that DALPA will file a grievance, and guys can't eat multiple unpaid days.
Possible solution for DALPA: All PDs taken while adhering to the contract will be covered by a loan from the Furlough/Emergency Relief Fund (or MCF or wherever) until they are made whole through a side letter or grievance. Implement an expedited approval process. And advertise loudly.
It would give guys a little confidence in DALPA, and provide massive leverage with minimal cost.
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