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04-08-2014, 01:45 PM
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Since I don't work for ALPA national, add that quote to the list of things you're wrong about.
When you're done being wrong about me, maybe you could spend a few seconds addressing the statements I made? Is it easier to get a better contract when the company is making a profit, or losing money?
04-08-2014, 02:02 PM
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And a $500 million stock buyback with the stock at even $30 will make how much difference in the stock price? Be sure to factor in that we have around 850 million shares outstanding.... This stock buyback is about something else, and it is nothing nefarious. Personally I think it makes way more sense to use that $500 mil to pay down debt. THe ROI is much much better, but I totally understand their logic in buying stock.
04-08-2014, 02:38 PM
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Assuming "we" is NWA ALPA, I don't know when you voted to freeze it, but the freeze didn't happen until after you entered bankruptcy.
BTW, DAL ALPA voted to soft freeze ours too, and the combination of paycut and soft freeze had the same effect as a hard freeze. It was frozen 9 months BEFORE we entered bankruptcy.....but still terminated.
BTW, DAL ALPA voted to soft freeze ours too, and the combination of paycut and soft freeze had the same effect as a hard freeze. It was frozen 9 months BEFORE we entered bankruptcy.....but still terminated.
04-08-2014, 02:39 PM
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Stock buy backs are a waste of corporate funds.
04-08-2014, 02:45 PM
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I have a friend who has conditional employment with Delta, but he's going to a Delta Pilot Review Board because of the Psych Eval. He's military, and has told me that several military guys from his interview group are going to this review board because of the Psych Eval. I've read past post regarding this. I know Delta loves military pilots who are becoming fewer in number these days. What is the likelihood that he'll fly for us? Seems more of a formality to me. He said that his interview went very well.
Don't test defensively (i.e. IMO, applicants should be honest on those MMPI tests and not try to look like a saint. Probably a lot more to it than that, though).
04-08-2014, 02:58 PM
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04-08-2014, 03:05 PM
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A mil friend of mine who went through this in 2010 said it resulted in holding him up for at least two or three classes. Upon review he was one of the lucky ones who got the go ahead; the others (~50%?) did not fair as well. One of the unlucky ones had a recommendation letter from his dad (a current captain with the company). Don't test defensively (i.e. IMO, applicants should be honest on those MMPI tests and not try to look like a saint. Probably a lot more to it than that, though).
Don't test defensively (i.e. IMO, applicants should be honest on those MMPI tests and not try to look like a saint. Probably a lot more to it than that, though).NOT to differentiate between people who have been doing the job already for a decade or more.
IMO, DAL should design a psych test that tests for the personality traits they want in the pilots they are interviewing.
04-08-2014, 03:07 PM
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04-08-2014, 03:17 PM
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Assuming "we" is NWA ALPA, I don't know when you voted to freeze it, but the freeze didn't happen until after you entered bankruptcy.
BTW, DAL ALPA voted to soft freeze ours too, and the combination of paycut and soft freeze had the same effect as a hard freeze. It was frozen 9 months BEFORE we entered bankruptcy…..but still terminated.
BTW, DAL ALPA voted to soft freeze ours too, and the combination of paycut and soft freeze had the same effect as a hard freeze. It was frozen 9 months BEFORE we entered bankruptcy…..but still terminated.
I think this is probably a. "Which came first: the chicken or egg?" conversation, but I'll answer anyway. From my perspective at the time, which was a freshly bumped DC-9 captain back in the right seat of the 757; our lower pay rates had everything to do with our frozen pension. If I remember correctly, our frozen pension vote came in the fall, while the concessionary contract vote came the next year.
I can tell you that I argued until I was blue in the face with guys with multiple reasons as to why they shouldn't vote for that contract. Almost everyone fell back on the same excuse as to why they would vote for it: they wanted to protect their pensions. IMO, it's the main reason why "we" voted in those lower rates.
So, it's all in how you look at it. I didn't take his statement to imply that we kept the pension because we had lower rates, while it appears that you did. Rather, I thought he was just including the frozen pension as evidence to compare our overall compensation as compared to yours.
I guess we would have to ask him what he meant.
04-08-2014, 03:32 PM
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