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Old 04-02-2014, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja
Talk about a wake up...WOW. We are a little little airline when it comes to Heavy Lift.

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Yeah, whole different world when you don't have a sugar daddy to prop up your earnings and a foreign (US) government to give you an advantage on those purchases....
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Old 04-02-2014, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
It is nuts when you look at Emirates fleet.

A332: 21 being replaced by A350
A343: 4 being replaced by A350
A345: 9 being replaced by A350
A359: 50 on order
A351: 20 on order
A380: 47 plus 93 on firm order
772: 3 being replaced by A350
772ER: 6
772LR: 10
773: 12
773ER: 93 with 59 on order

UAE population 9.2 million.
Now, if you can find it, add in the current aircraft and orders for Qatar and Etiahd.

And the 3 ME carriers are getting access to 10 major US cities, and wanting more access, to more cities, each of which has much more population than the entire UAE.

While the 3 major US Carriers get access to....

Dubai.

That's a fair trade if I ever saw one!

Thanks Congress.
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Old 04-02-2014, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Now, if you can find it, add in the current aircraft and orders for Qatar and Etiahd.

And the 3 ME carriers are getting access to 10 major US cities, and wanting more access, to more cities, each of which has much more population than the entire UAE.

While the 3 major US Carriers get access to....

Dubai.

That's a fair trade if I ever saw one!

Thanks Congress.
And a special shout out to our boy, Marco Rubio...
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Old 04-02-2014, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I'm trying to drive some awareness, accountability and results from the MEC and DALPA's bloated, ineffective, unelected bureaucracy.

... alan shore...appear(s) to be doing exactly the opposite.
I'm not sure how you read that in any of my posts. My reps know that I insist on full awareness, accountability, and results from them and that I want as much restoration of my former buying power as can possibly be achieved. They have stated repeatedly that they agree with those points of view.

However, I refuse to wallow in the self-pity of those who exaggerate every negative that they see and discount every positive. At Delta, I see a bloated, ineffective, unelected bureaucracy that has achieved more than any other bloated, ineffective, unelected bureaucracy in the industry.

Have they achieved enough to make me whole? No.

Have they achieved everything they could? I have my suspicions, but I will never truly know one way or the other unless I get out from behind my keyboard and become fully engaged.

In the meantime, I prefer to work with facts that represent the full picture, not just the portion that happens to justify the position of one side of the argument or the other. Anything else is just sniping.

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Old 04-02-2014, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
They don't worry about flying a bunch of half empty widebody jets around the world. Last week on the way to Dubai we heard one of their A380's checking in with ATC at FL400 just after exiting the Nat tracks over Ireland.

You gotta be pretty light to be that high, that far out. (about 7 hours out of DXB)

I'd like to know what their system average load factor is, and what their "Break Even" load factor is, or if they even have one.
From their web site: Emirates Group announces 25th consecutive year of profit | News | Emirates

Emirates revenue reached a record high of AED 73.1 billion (US$ 19.9 billion) growing by 17 per cent when compared to the 2011-12 financial year. Although the average price of jet fuel did not increase over last year, it remains high and has impacted Emirates’ bottom line with the airline’s profit at AED 2.3 billion (US$ 622 million) representing an increase of 52 per cent over last year’s results.


Carrying a record 39.4 million passengers, an increase of 16 per cent, Emirates logged a robust Passenger Seat Factor, at 80 per cent, remaining consistent with last year’s results. With an increase in seat capacity-Available Seat Kilometres (ASKMs) of 18 per cent the result highlights a strong consumer desire to fly on Emirates’ state-of-the-art aircraft.
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Old 04-02-2014, 06:20 AM
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Another tidbit from the above report:
"Revenue generated from across Emirates’ six regions continues to be well balanced, with no region contributing more than 30 per cent of overall revenues. East Asia and Australasia remained the highest revenue contributing region with AED 20.9 billion (US$ 5.7 billion) up 15 per cent from 2011-12. Europe, up 18 per cent to AED 20.1billion (US$ 5.5 billion) and the Americas up 24 per cent to AED 8.3 billion (US$ 2.3 billion) saw the most significant growth, reflecting new destinations as well as increased frequency and capacity to these regions."
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Old 04-02-2014, 06:57 AM
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Some FWIW perspective:

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Old 04-02-2014, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Some FWIW perspective:

Uh oh...I may need a Bfast Beer for this one. Be gentle - please.

Baja.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Some FWIW perspective:



Sweet! Take that Air India, BA, and KLM.

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Old 04-02-2014, 08:11 AM
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I think BA has a couple more than 0 744. According to their website they have 57.
Don't get me wrong, GREAT graph,
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