Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-25-2014, 05:38 PM
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03-25-2014, 05:52 PM
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Have had Malaria multiple times. It's Africa's version of the flu. Its not a big deal. Yes older people and young children die from Malaria if they do not seek immediate medical attention. Guess what happens to old people and young children in the USA if they don't seek medical attention for the flu?
Delta has gone to great lengths to educate and provide meds to its employes. You might want to consider deleting such an irresponsible statement.
03-25-2014, 06:26 PM
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Out of curiosity, is the ER doing most of the Africa stuff these days?
03-25-2014, 06:36 PM
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Great idea!!! Let's get rid of the ALV+15 limit while we're at it and let everyone fly to the FAR's!
Except for those benefiting from it, most pilots did not like Trip Parking. What you're proposing would be far more detrimental than that, or any of the other work rules that have gone bye-bye over the years. I MIGHT be able to get behind 1.5 over 80 (I was fnwa btw, as I assume you are on the 744) but it would have to come with a cap - not limited solely by FAR's. 80 is just too high of a premium trigger, and would incentivize far too many of us to help Delta reduce our headcount.
The point is, there is a balance to be struck, and we will naturally all have our personal opinions on it. After the stagnation of the past decade+ I have little interest in anything that will further reduce Delta's staffing requirements.
The GS system definitely favors seniority in category, but as others have mentioned on here, it is more affected by your bidding strategy. The senior guys get more GS's because they are more likely to be OFF when GS's are flowing. All other things equal, the junior guy has to get his G#1 before the senior guy gets G#2.
If a pilot chooses not to chase the bigger payrate for better seniority in-category, he benefits by having better bidding options and the ability to set himself up for more GS's. He also has the option to bid up a category for the higher payrate, but probably fewer pay hours in a given year... If you say we shouldn't limit ourselves at all, then option #2 gets pushed back even further. IMO, after seeing both ways of doing things, I don't want to go back to 1.5 over 80. The current system seems to un-stovepipe things a little bit more, creating more options for guys vertically throughout the list.
Nobody is telling you how much you can make. I'd argue that if you live in base and know how to game the system you could make more as a senior NB FO rather than sitting wherever you do on the whale. We have 73NB's making more than the A's they fly with. There are plenty of ways to skin the cat...
Except for those benefiting from it, most pilots did not like Trip Parking. What you're proposing would be far more detrimental than that, or any of the other work rules that have gone bye-bye over the years. I MIGHT be able to get behind 1.5 over 80 (I was fnwa btw, as I assume you are on the 744) but it would have to come with a cap - not limited solely by FAR's. 80 is just too high of a premium trigger, and would incentivize far too many of us to help Delta reduce our headcount.
The point is, there is a balance to be struck, and we will naturally all have our personal opinions on it. After the stagnation of the past decade+ I have little interest in anything that will further reduce Delta's staffing requirements.
The GS system definitely favors seniority in category, but as others have mentioned on here, it is more affected by your bidding strategy. The senior guys get more GS's because they are more likely to be OFF when GS's are flowing. All other things equal, the junior guy has to get his G#1 before the senior guy gets G#2.
If a pilot chooses not to chase the bigger payrate for better seniority in-category, he benefits by having better bidding options and the ability to set himself up for more GS's. He also has the option to bid up a category for the higher payrate, but probably fewer pay hours in a given year... If you say we shouldn't limit ourselves at all, then option #2 gets pushed back even further. IMO, after seeing both ways of doing things, I don't want to go back to 1.5 over 80. The current system seems to un-stovepipe things a little bit more, creating more options for guys vertically throughout the list.
Nobody is telling you how much you can make. I'd argue that if you live in base and know how to game the system you could make more as a senior NB FO rather than sitting wherever you do on the whale. We have 73NB's making more than the A's they fly with. There are plenty of ways to skin the cat...
Post of the day! Unless you are a NB FO you have a lot of say in how "senior" you are. Some guys are 15-25 year FOs by choice because they want to be able to leverage the QOL and benefits of being senior. Other Pilots will bid up at first opportunity for higher pay, international flying etc.
The beauty of our system is that you can do what ever you want. What you can not do however is bid to higher paying equipment at the first opportunity and expect to have the same opportunities as those 5-10-15 years senior to you in the same seat. If you want to be senior - down-bid.
If you are a NB FO you do not have much of a choice, but if you stay a NB FO you will quickly accrue seniority - much, much quicker by the way, than most 2000-2010 hires.
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03-25-2014, 06:39 PM
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I was waiting for Jon Stewart to nail CNN. Outstanding job.
The Curious Case of Flight 370 - The Daily Show - Video Clip | Comedy Central
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Agreed! Finally!
03-25-2014, 06:47 PM
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03-25-2014, 07:01 PM
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And for something even more inappropriate but on topic...
Monty Python Sit On My Face
03-25-2014, 07:20 PM
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I miss those guys!
TV was so much better back when men were men, and sheep were nervous!
Remember the Lumberjack song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQOMxz-O7Sc
I couldn't get your link to open, here it is with the lyrics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqGI2DGNWV8
TV was so much better back when men were men, and sheep were nervous!
Remember the Lumberjack song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQOMxz-O7Sc
I couldn't get your link to open, here it is with the lyrics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqGI2DGNWV8
03-25-2014, 09:11 PM
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Hey, Timbo...
03-25-2014, 11:22 PM
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Have had Malaria multiple times. It's Africa's version of the flu. Its not a big deal. Yes older people and young children die from Malaria if they do not seek immediate medical attention. Guess what happens to old people and young children in the USA if they don't seek medical attention for the flu?
For this post, I nominate you for tool of the day.
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