Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-25-2014, 10:04 AM
No longer cares
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Nah... I am not that paranoid. But it's a 7 day trip with overnights in some of those graden spots where Ebola was reported. No desire to take any chances with crap like that. You got to pay me a lot of 'hazard pay' to go poke around stuff like that. This Ebola outbreak might go either way- contained or out of control. Keeping an eye on it and doing my due diligence. 73N is looking pretty good right now! 
03-25-2014, 10:11 AM
Straight QOL, homie
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...or an infected passenger gets on the plane? 
that's why I hate saying "goodbye" to pax. Too many idiots fly sick. With the astronomical cost of changing a ticket, no one is going to cancel or reschedule when sick.
that's why I hate saying "goodbye" to pax. Too many idiots fly sick. With the astronomical cost of changing a ticket, no one is going to cancel or reschedule when sick.
03-25-2014, 10:14 AM
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I don't want to go anywhere near Africa.... ever. All it takes is one mosquito, one fly bite, get some of the wonderfully clean water on your food and you have the rest of your life to remember it. Paranoid? Yup... so be it. I am. Hazard pay will provide an incentive for many.. but not me... and I am all for paying guys more that want to take that risk.... the side benny is that it keeps that garbage off my line.
03-25-2014, 10:27 AM
Looking for a laugh
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Three are like getting the flu. One will kill you.
Four kinds of malaria parasites have been known to infect humans: Plasmodium falciparum, P. vivax, P. ovale, and P. malariae. P. falciparum is the type of malaria that is most likely to result in severe infections and if not promptly treated, may lead to death.
Yes, I grew up in Africa and SE Asia. Local governments sure took it serious, especially during monsoon season. I remember the mosquito guy going door to door, looking for standing water and handing out hefty fines when he found it.
03-25-2014, 10:33 AM
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Having said that, I agree with tsquare in that no matter what we make there will always be a percentage who will keep up the same tactics to maximize pay instead of working less due to higher rates.
03-25-2014, 10:42 AM
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Purp...think a lot of these rumors are put out to elicit a certain type of behavior, what is sad is that individual states produce laws like this that should be common sense.
03-25-2014, 10:44 AM
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Well, from my understanding, a lot of those listed were in our proposal for the last contract. How many made it?
In addition, just because you are against "1.5 over 80", what gives you the right to limit the amount someone can make IF HE OR SHE WISHES TO FLY AND EARN MORE? Every person has a reason, be it kids approaching/ in college, new car, medical bills, taking care of family members, mx on the house, savings, etc.
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In addition, just because you are against "1.5 over 80", what gives you the right to limit the amount someone can make IF HE OR SHE WISHES TO FLY AND EARN MORE? Every person has a reason, be it kids approaching/ in college, new car, medical bills, taking care of family members, mx on the house, savings, etc.
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If we had 1.5/80 what do you think will happen to your ability to go over 80? Right now under greenslip rules there is a little equity in the assignment of greenslips.....it's not all seniority. What do you think will happen with 1.5 over 80, when all of the senior pilots are picking up flying under normal white slip rules? And there are all kinds of ways around the pick up limit. In addition to being a job killer, I think you would find if you are not senior enough to get a greenslip you won't be senior enough to go above 80 hours.
03-25-2014, 10:53 AM
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Just a little good news-DELTA Adds New York JFK – Honolulu Nonstop Service in late-Dec 2014
by JL
Update at 2055GMT 24MAR14
DELTA from 18DEC14 to 04JAN15 is introducing Christmas/New Year season-only service on New York JFK – Honolulu route, on board Boeing 767-300ER aircraft. Service operates mainly on daily basis, except 24DEC14, 25DEC14 and 31DEC14.
DL420 JFK0845 – 1543HNL 76W D
DL1059 HNL1715 – 0800+1JFK 76W D
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Read more from 2014/15, DELTA, [Skyteam]
by JL
Update at 2055GMT 24MAR14
DELTA from 18DEC14 to 04JAN15 is introducing Christmas/New Year season-only service on New York JFK – Honolulu route, on board Boeing 767-300ER aircraft. Service operates mainly on daily basis, except 24DEC14, 25DEC14 and 31DEC14.
DL420 JFK0845 – 1543HNL 76W D
DL1059 HNL1715 – 0800+1JFK 76W D
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Read more from 2014/15, DELTA, [Skyteam]
03-25-2014, 10:59 AM
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CBA maximums drive staffing, QOL and pay issues for the entire pilot group. The current system is extremely generous in what it allows for flying a lot if that's what you want to do. But there is no inherent right to fly FAR max all the time, and that's something that will never happen here outside of some deep chapter 11 on the verge of chapter 7 scenario. The limits we have are there for a reason, and part of why you make what you make and can hold what you hold. Its also why most pilots here were hired whenever they were.
Be careful what you wish for, and realize the limits of what you try and demand.
03-25-2014, 11:01 AM
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Great idea!!! Let's get rid of the ALV+15 limit while we're at it and let everyone fly to the FAR's!
Except for those benefiting from it, most pilots did not like Trip Parking. What you're proposing would be far more detrimental than that, or any of the other work rules that have gone bye-bye over the years. I MIGHT be able to get behind 1.5 over 80 (I was fnwa btw, as I assume you are on the 744) but it would have to come with a cap - not limited solely by FAR's. 80 is just too high of a premium trigger, and would incentivize far too many of us to help Delta reduce our headcount.
The point is, there is a balance to be struck, and we will naturally all have our personal opinions on it. After the stagnation of the past decade+ I have little interest in anything that will further reduce Delta's staffing requirements.
The GS system definitely favors seniority in category, but as others have mentioned on here, it is more affected by your bidding strategy. The senior guys get more GS's because they are more likely to be OFF when GS's are flowing. All other things equal, the junior guy has to get his G#1 before the senior guy gets G#2.
If a pilot chooses not to chase the bigger payrate for better seniority in-category, he benefits by having better bidding options and the ability to set himself up for more GS's. He also has the option to bid up a category for the higher payrate, but probably fewer pay hours in a given year... If you say we shouldn't limit ourselves at all, then option #2 gets pushed back even further. IMO, after seeing both ways of doing things, I don't want to go back to 1.5 over 80. The current system seems to un-stovepipe things a little bit more, creating more options for guys vertically throughout the list.
Nobody is telling you how much you can make. I'd argue that if you live in base and know how to game the system you could make more as a senior NB FO rather than sitting wherever you do on the whale. We have 73NB's making more than the A's they fly with. There are plenty of ways to skin the cat...
Except for those benefiting from it, most pilots did not like Trip Parking. What you're proposing would be far more detrimental than that, or any of the other work rules that have gone bye-bye over the years. I MIGHT be able to get behind 1.5 over 80 (I was fnwa btw, as I assume you are on the 744) but it would have to come with a cap - not limited solely by FAR's. 80 is just too high of a premium trigger, and would incentivize far too many of us to help Delta reduce our headcount.
The point is, there is a balance to be struck, and we will naturally all have our personal opinions on it. After the stagnation of the past decade+ I have little interest in anything that will further reduce Delta's staffing requirements.
The GS system definitely favors seniority in category, but as others have mentioned on here, it is more affected by your bidding strategy. The senior guys get more GS's because they are more likely to be OFF when GS's are flowing. All other things equal, the junior guy has to get his G#1 before the senior guy gets G#2.
If a pilot chooses not to chase the bigger payrate for better seniority in-category, he benefits by having better bidding options and the ability to set himself up for more GS's. He also has the option to bid up a category for the higher payrate, but probably fewer pay hours in a given year... If you say we shouldn't limit ourselves at all, then option #2 gets pushed back even further. IMO, after seeing both ways of doing things, I don't want to go back to 1.5 over 80. The current system seems to un-stovepipe things a little bit more, creating more options for guys vertically throughout the list.
Nobody is telling you how much you can make. I'd argue that if you live in base and know how to game the system you could make more as a senior NB FO rather than sitting wherever you do on the whale. We have 73NB's making more than the A's they fly with. There are plenty of ways to skin the cat...
I wish we would get rid of it! and go back to the ALV limit we used to have..thanks alpa for giving that one away
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