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Old 03-20-2014, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
??? What precisely are they doing to upset you?
my guess is they are disrupting his GS dreams.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
??? What precisely are they doing to upset you?
IBGS ... good
OOWS .. bad
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
??? What precisely are they doing to upset you?
I'm not an OOBWS fan, but it is what it is. Couple trips ripe for GS's, then some junior OOB guy picks it up. I know it's in the contract, but……. Momma needs new shoes! All about me you know!
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
my guess is they are disrupting his GS dreams.
It was sick…...
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
I'm not an OOBWS fan, but it is what it is. Couple trips ripe for GS's, then some junior OOB guy picks it up. I know it's in the contract, but……. Momma needs new shoes! All about me you know!
I do OOBWS in ATL. I can hold a line in ATL but hold a better schedule in NYC. Here's your misconception- I have been called six times in the last three months where I did not answer the phone for an OOBWS. Of those a short call pilot was used four times and another pilot junior to me got an OOBWS. Not a single GS. was awarded when I didn't pick up the phone. Oh, and besides a better line, I never work a single holiday in NYC. Thanksgiving, I had Wed-Sat off, Xmas, I had 23-26 off. Thanks, I'll stay in NYC and OOBWS maybe one trip a month in ATL. Sitting in SRQ right now on an OOBWS, 10:30 credit, a little ove 3 block. Sorry if that ruined your greenslip dreams.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:53 AM
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Any other ATL88B get 3 robo calls for IA last night around 0100? Wouldn't robo calls break the rest opportunity and therefore reset the 10hr clock?
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
I'm not an OOBWS fan, but it is what it is. Couple trips ripe for GS's, then some junior OOB guy picks it up. I know it's in the contract, but……. Momma needs new shoes! All about me you know!
Boog don't get me started. 117 changed the paradigm. The old work more for more money is corrupted. Now, the name of the game is to work smarter and less...for more.

100 in 28 necessitates the new sea state of thinking. Prospective rest gives us Ho's the GS opportunity.

I still can't (in my category) figure out why a guy would YS a trip. Its just dumb.

OOBWS is okay if a guy has to fill to the GS trigger to protect his previous GS.

What I've noticed though is that scheduling is adapting. GS's have slowed a bit.
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Old 03-20-2014, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
I do OOBWS in ATL. I can hold a line in ATL but hold a better schedule in NYC. Here's your misconception- I have been called six times in the last three months where I did not answer the phone for an OOBWS. Of those a short call pilot was used four times and another pilot junior to me got an OOBWS. Not a single GS. was awarded when I didn't pick up the phone. Oh, and besides a better line, I never work a single holiday in NYC. Thanksgiving, I had Wed-Sat off, Xmas, I had 23-26 off. Thanks, I'll stay in NYC and OOBWS maybe one trip a month in ATL. Sitting in SRQ right now on an OOBWS, 10:30 credit, a little ove 3 block. Sorry if that ruined your greenslip dreams.
Dalad, you are one of my favorite posters on this board, so don't take this personally. You are doing what is allowed under our contract.

OOBWS IMHO:
  • - Commuting on your time, not the Company's dime
  • - Deters the Company from adding staffing at the base you might want to bid in to
  • - Deters the Company from hiring the pilots it needs to staff the network
  • - Raises the expectation that pilots will DH for less than our current contract (free)
  • - Raises the expectation that DH is not really duty, or work
  • - Does take trips out of the system which might be assigned at premium pay
  • - Is an abrogation of seniority
Should be taken out of our contract. Bid what you want. Want what you bid.

Although Scambo makes a great point above. I'd say "good" if a guy was needing to fill up his GS trigger.
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Old 03-20-2014, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
Any other ATL88B get 3 robo calls for IA last night around 0100? Wouldn't robo calls break the rest opportunity and therefore reset the 10hr clock?
Yep. 3 calls.
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Old 03-20-2014, 07:08 AM
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Quick unrelated topic questions.....

Any one know of someone who commutes from central america?
Specifically from Costa Rica?
A friend, who works for US(AA) lives and commutes from Belize. If that helps?
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