Originally Posted by Mesabah

Pi x r^2 = 3.14 x (2,200 x 2,200) mi = 15,197,600 square miles. That's the search area for the aircraft. yeeeaaahhh good luck with that.....

Originally Posted by Mesabah

Pi x r^2 = 3.14 x (2,200 x 2,200) mi = 15,197,600 square miles. That's the search area for the aircraft. yeeeaaahhh good luck with that.....

Originally Posted by sinca3

Here's my guy:
Air Crew Tax Specialist for Pilots and Crew Member's

By the way I use Dr. Jackson as he's 3 miles from my house, are you up this direction?

Originally Posted by sailingfun

One last try!

Not working, Need to go work on my hammerheads and get off the keyboard!

Originally Posted by scambo1

Just for the record I didn't say 50 in 2015, I said the 787s would start arriving in 2014.

So is that still your intel?

And the 50 widebody RFP was a separate rumor, but part of what I posted.

So 50 WB RFP on top of separate 787? How many 787's outside of RFP?

Also, I was told this info, I didn't make it up out of thin air. I did not sign a non disclosure agreement either. I have absolutely no way of knowing if it will play out (the 787 rumor).

Understand this is just "water cooler" rumor stuff for now

OTOH, I made up the widebody RFP and now SD is parroting me, so go figure.

Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL

If 787's were to show up late this year I don't see how we could possibly have a training program stood up that quickly. Even having one in place and an instructor cadre by this time next year would be a massive undertaking.

Of course we had an almost ready to go 787 program at fNWA with most of the key personnel still on the property that could be dusted off to get things moving quickly.

Almost too much to even dream about....

Originally Posted by finis72

T, I still think a better option would be a 3 tier pay scale based on seats. You could include the 747,777,767-400, and the 330 in one tier, maybe down to 170 seats in the next and last below 170 seats. This is just a out of my butt tiers but it would provide pay raises for a majority of pilots in addition to negotiated pay raises and in the long run would save the big D on training costs. Just an idea towards your coveted LBP.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I posted this in the safety forum, but some rather interesting facts have just been released.... the 777 kept talking to Boeing and reporting engine data for another 4ish hours!


From the WSJ: U.S. Investigators Suspect Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours - WSJ.com


U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.

The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce RR.LN -1.71% PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.
Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.

Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."
The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.