Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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It's a anonymous web board. Did you think that verified fact and a heightened sense of decorum was what you'd find? Opinions and insults are the fabric in the APC tapestry.
Bar,
I truly appreciate your approach and your foresight. I also agree that unified is the only way. My comment about you not understanding is really based on the tenet that if you haven't been there, you can't go there. We had guys taking their lives and leaving families behind. It was horrid. So, while I appreciate your sentiment, most of us don't feel that there are thanks owed both ways. This is not directed at you....hundreds of Delta and NWA guys were kicked to the curb and younger, less experienced guys accelerated their careers at regionals because of that. Fine, that's life and that's definitely the career we have embarked upon. Please understand that guys who were hired years before your peers and are choosing to come back ( many senior to me BTW) are owed every possible advantage as is detailed in our PWA.
Regards,
Buzz
I truly appreciate your approach and your foresight. I also agree that unified is the only way. My comment about you not understanding is really based on the tenet that if you haven't been there, you can't go there. We had guys taking their lives and leaving families behind. It was horrid. So, while I appreciate your sentiment, most of us don't feel that there are thanks owed both ways. This is not directed at you....hundreds of Delta and NWA guys were kicked to the curb and younger, less experienced guys accelerated their careers at regionals because of that. Fine, that's life and that's definitely the career we have embarked upon. Please understand that guys who were hired years before your peers and are choosing to come back ( many senior to me BTW) are owed every possible advantage as is detailed in our PWA.
Regards,
Buzz
Damnation Buzz! That was perfect. Thanks!
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
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OMG, you think the FA's even hear what you're blabbing about? All they hear is "prepare for departure". That's it. Nobody cares about the rest. Some pilots just like to hear themselves talk.
Every PA is an interruption. Use only when absolutely necessary. You're not the tour guide on the jungle cruise ride at the amusement park. People have iPhones now. They know what the temperature is... everywhere.
Every PA is an interruption. Use only when absolutely necessary. You're not the tour guide on the jungle cruise ride at the amusement park. People have iPhones now. They know what the temperature is... everywhere.
There is still a remnant of old school pilot stuff that biases some people to think that more PA's are better because that's all we can do to differentiate ourselves and go the extra mile or whatever. So lots of pilots get carried away with it. We are slowly starting to figure out that less is more. Slowly. Very slowly.
But its wrong to think you can't squeeze in your takeoff number because that's a violation of sterile cockpit. Anyone dumb enough to believe that should never even set 250 under 10 (unless they're one of the few that actually have it "in the manuals" that set automation is acceptable for that specific limit) because they might get a 1 knot gust and have to self disclose themselves.
And many FA's don't listen to PA's. But some do. That quick sequence information is relevant and serves a purpose, and could very well end up reducing the bandwidth you spend talking in the back anyway.
"We're number three for takeoff" is not a violation of anything and anyone that thinks it even might be is too paranoid to operate an aircraft.
Well by all means, please enlighten us all as to how foreign supported airlines flying within our borders will be beneficial to us all. And I couldn't care less if I insult them. They can KMA, and so can those that support them..
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Exactly.......
The shiner on my left eye says it all.
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Joined APC: May 2012
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What is highlighted in red is absolutely correct. I disagree with the rest. While you don't have to be a tour guide, it doesn't hurt to provide a little information, and to let them know there is a living breathing human being at the controls of the airplane. It is customer service. Many seem to have forgotten that is the business in which we work.
That being said, the bottom line is this: say whatever you want to say. You are a pilot and have earn the right to 'do the pilot thing'.
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When something subjective causes disagreement among pilots, I think the simplest and most objective default position to is to respect seniority.
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