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Old 02-20-2014, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
I don't think Chillax... is the best statement to a pilot that has been through all that. Seems a little harsh, just like contract 2012.


No, If saying Chillax is enough to cause a problem with anyone, then that person is wound too tight or too self absorbed.

The reality of this industry, over the past 35+ years, is that very few of us has had that Golden career we all dreamed of one day when we were in our teens and 20's. If anyone thinks that another demographic benefited at their expense, that, in my opinion, is very myopic.

And I can say that because I was hired Oct 2000. Furloughed for 3 years and 2 months and have enjoyed 2 years of positive movement in my 13 years here. There are plenty of reasons for the stagnation and backward sliding, and furloughs, but our fellow pilots are not the cause.

Anyway, have a great night.
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
No, If saying Chillax is enough to cause a problem with anyone, then that person is wound too tight or too self absorbed.

The reality of this industry, over the past 35+ years, is that very few of us has had that Golden career we all dreamed of one day when we were in our teens and 20's. If anyone thinks that another demographic benefited at their expense, that, in my opinion, is very myopic.

And I can say that because I was hired Oct 2000. Furloughed for 3 years and 2 months and have enjoyed 2 years of positive movement in my 13 years here. There are plenty of reasons for the stagnation and backward sliding, and furloughs, but our fellow pilots are not the cause.

Anyway, have a great night.
I think this is one of the few guys who will make it 30 yrs. Past retirement.
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
I was waiting for the PCS run too... and remembered the PWA was changed, it now says:

"No earlier than 0700E, 1200E, 1700E, and 2200E" rather than at specific times.
I think that is what it always said.
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I think that is what it always said.
No, I don't think so, the PWA shows it as being a recent change.

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Old 02-20-2014, 04:49 PM
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If you're in Florida right now, check out the rocket launch....8:59pm lighting of the candle...Delta IV...should be a bright one...

:::: United Launch Alliance, LLC ::::

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Old 02-20-2014, 05:04 PM
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that was pretty cool!

Like living in Gattica...
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 8 Cherry Garcia
that was pretty cool!

Like living in Gattica...
No 'i' in Gattaca...

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Old 02-20-2014, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
No, If saying Chillax is enough to cause a problem with anyone, then that person is wound too tight or too self absorbed.

The reality of this industry, over the past 35+ years, is that very few of us has had that Golden career we all dreamed of one day when we were in our teens and 20's. If anyone thinks that another demographic benefited at their expense, that, in my opinion, is very myopic.

And I can say that because I was hired Oct 2000. Furloughed for 3 years and 2 months and have enjoyed 2 years of positive movement in my 13 years here. There are plenty of reasons for the stagnation and backward sliding, and furloughs, but our fellow pilots are not the cause.

Anyway, have a great night.
I agree with this post 1000%. Hope we get to fly together one day... the drinks are on me.
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Are these PCS swaps being done by hand now? Is there some error in the PCS programming still that is having to be checked by hand (like the 10hr rest thing)?
Between 117 and various IROPs, the company's continued reliance on an utterly outdated and inadequate scheduling system has been unmasked as nothing short of gross buffoonery.

HVCs have better real-time scheduling info than we do (not to mention their access to better real-time weather info with wi-fi in the back).

What a joke. If we performed at Delta IT's level, this company wouldn't exist.
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
In many contracts today and prior to about 2001 at Delta furlough time did not count for anything. DALPA was the first union to push for and get longevity credit for furlough time. For those on long furloughs it is very significant improvement. It made for some nice pay bumps also for some NW pilots. They did not have it in their contract.
It also used to be and perhaps still is that if you took a voluntary leave you also lost seniority. That surprised at least one person I know.
SF, I think NWA had it in their 98 contract....
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