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Old 02-20-2014, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Spudhauler
Sailing, you said that the company vowed to not make a purchase without inked pay rates. What about the 321?
The Company never again to make a purchase without inked pay rates so long as 3 B. 6. was in the PWA.
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
I don't think Chillax... is the best statement to a pilot that has been through all that. Seems a little harsh, just like contract 2012.
I also don't think his attack/insinuation about my personality, is the best statement for a fellow pilot to make towards another fellow pilot... so there you have it.

Probably time for some CRM for both of us.
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Sure. You get minimal yield in that market precisely because Virgin Atlantic has 3-4 747s/day, BA has a couple now and then.. Lufthansa has some... I don't know this for a fact, but I will wager that the one 747 going from JFK to TLV makes as much profit yield as all of VA's 747s going to MCO. I'd much rather DAL have a few more TLVs than MCOs... and I live there. Now translate that to NRT. THe other point is, that I do not know whether any of that is true. You could be right that EU to MCO could be a golden goose... but I rather doubt it.
I still think if we can't handle one plane's worth of pax in an extremely dense market like that then its a crack in the armor for our long term viability. What are we going to do when the same will be said of NYC/SEA/BOS/ATL/etc. to CDG, LHR, MAD and all the other large EU cities once the fake royalty Gulf carriers each put multipile jumbos a day additional capacity on them?

HVC's are great, but you can not run a large global airline off of them and only them. You have to be able to compete and win the masses.
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
HVC's are great, but you can not run a large global airline off of them and only them. You have to be able to compete and win the masses.
I'm sure you noted that Delta is pulling seats out of the premium cabin and increasing the size of economy...

Oh, and you did highlight the threat posed by our vertically integrated, government subsidized competition. It's a big problem right now for the Europeans. It will be our big problem shortly.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
If that's the message you took from the review of the historical record you need a refund on your last 24 years of airline education.
I think DALPA wants us to be well paid but they also want to manage our expectations and our compensation so it doesn't get too far out of line with our competitors.

I think some people in the union secretly believe that C2K caused the bankruptcy.

Just my opinion.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:02 PM
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Wow... over an hour and a half into the PCS run, and still no results out. Used to take just 10 min or so.
"March PCS Begins: 0700E - February 20th, then runs 0700E, 1200E, 1700E and 2200E daily."

Are these PCS swaps being done by hand now? Is there some error in the PCS programming still that is having to be checked by hand (like the 10hr rest thing)?

Seems every day a new 117 item comes out that makes it harder for me to keep it all in my head on what is legal and what isn't.

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Old 02-20-2014, 03:00 PM
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FYI.......One of our friendly, senior cat ranchers could use your help.

"yeah thats not what I was looking for at all."
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Wow... over an hour and a half into the PCS run, and still no results out. Used to take just 10 min or so.
"March PCS Begins: 0700E - February 20th, then runs 0700E, 1200E, 1700E and 2200E daily."

Are these PCS swaps being done by hand now? Is there some error in the PCS programming still that is having to be checked by hand (like the 10hr rest thing)?

Seems every day a new 117 item comes out that makes it harder for me to keep it all in my head on what is legal and what isn't.
The system is not handling the 100 in 672 rule. Looks like in my case it counted DH as block time. Perhaps they are manually checking each run.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:26 PM
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OMG I laughed so hard on that missing cat thing! THAT guy knows how to play out a joke.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Wow... over an hour and a half into the PCS run, and still no results out. Used to take just 10 min or so.
"March PCS Begins: 0700E - February 20th, then runs 0700E, 1200E, 1700E and 2200E daily."

Are these PCS swaps being done by hand now? Is there some error in the PCS programming still that is having to be checked by hand (like the 10hr rest thing)?

Seems every day a new 117 item comes out that makes it harder for me to keep it all in my head on what is legal and what isn't.
I was waiting for the PCS run too... and remembered the PWA was changed, it now says:

"No earlier than 0700E, 1200E, 1700E, and 2200E" rather than at specific times.
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