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Old 02-19-2014, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Lufthansa, Virgin, and British Airways aren't exactly known to be low cost liesure carriers nor have low paid pilots....

You've really been digging yourself into holes the last 24 hours. Might be time to put down the shovel for a bit.
Hey check it out, say you live in Germany and want to go to go ride the Barnstormer at Disney World with your crumb crunchers this Saturday and leave next Saturday. Here are your Orbitz provided options as of right now...

Air Canada $1,989
Air France $1,174
airberlin $2,161
American Airlines $1,900
Austrian Airlines $4,378
British Airways $979
Brussels Airlines $4,004
Delta Air Lines $909
Finnair $1,959
Iberia $1,281
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines $909
Lufthansa $2,332
SWISS $2,078
United Airlines $1,159
US Airways $930
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Old 02-19-2014, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Last time I was there in Sept 2011, the DC-10's were gone. I looked all over trying to find them.
They are in the big boxes in the basement, labeled "ark". It has been quite sometime since I was in the building. Although I often wonder what Lunchroom Katie is doing now...
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Old 02-19-2014, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Lufthansa, Virgin, and British Airways aren't exactly known to be low cost liesure carriers nor have low paid pilots....

You've really been digging yourself into holes the last 24 hours. Might be time to put down the shovel for a bit.
You might check on the pay at Virgin. Branson talks a good game but pays his people peanuts.

A study of average salaries by the Civil Aviation Authority put the top earners at British Airways (£107,600), followed by Virgin Atlantic (£89,500), Monarch (£80,100),Thomson Airways (£78,300), Thomas Cook Airlines (£75,200), Easyjet (£74,100), Jet2.com (£69,900) and bmi (£58,300).

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/ar...#ixzz2togKN3um

That means the top earner at Virgin made less then 150,000 as a 747 Captain in 2011.

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Old 02-19-2014, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Hey check it out, say you live in Germany and want to go to go ride the Barnstormer at Disney World with your crumb crunchers this Saturday and leave next Saturday. Here are your Orbitz provided options as of right now...

Air Canada $1,989
Air France $1,174
airberlin $2,161
American Airlines $1,900
Austrian Airlines $4,378
British Airways $979
Brussels Airlines $4,004
Delta Air Lines $909
Finnair $1,959
Iberia $1,281
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines $909
Lufthansa $2,332
SWISS $2,078
United Airlines $1,159
US Airways $930
You might want to check Thompson and Monarch as well. What does Virgin Atlantic charge?
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
You might want to check Thompson and Monarch as well. What does Virgin Atlantic charge?
I don't know, they didn't come up. Stby...

I added any airport within 80 miles of Frankfort but no Virgins found.

How about I do LHR and 80 miles from that to MCO this Saturday to March 1?

Aer Lingus $1,541
Air Canada $1,976
Air France $1,089
American Airlines $1,015
British Airways $1,277
Delta Air Lines $980
Finnair $3,898
Iberia $2,489
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines $981
Lufthansa $1,829
United Airlines $986
US Airways $950
Virgin Atlantic $856

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Old 02-19-2014, 03:16 PM
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I don't know, they didn't come up. Stby...
I just looked. Thomas Cook in May is over 700 EU round trip. Thompson is a fly stay package for about 800 -1000 pounds dependent on the hotel. Interesting. Monarch doesn't fly to MCO.
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You might check on the pay at Virgin. Branson talks a good game but pays his people peanuts.

A study of average salaries by the Civil Aviation Authority put the top earners at British Airways (£107,600), followed by Virgin Atlantic (£89,500), Monarch (£80,100),Thomson Airways (£78,300), Thomas Cook Airlines (£75,200), Easyjet (£74,100), Jet2.com (£69,900) and bmi (£58,300).

Read more: Virgin strike: Sir Richard Branson sends letters to pilots | Mail Online

That means the top earner at Virgin made less then 150,000 as a 747 Captain in 2011.
Wow a BA Captain tops out at $179k?
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
If you believe so strongly in the wisdom and benevolence of management and place so much trust in them, then why do you support ALPA?
Is a union even necessary?

We "force" Mr. Anderson to do a lot of things that are "unprofitable". Maybe we should just get rid of that pesky contract.
This is a ridiculous argument. I never used either of those words. As a matter of fact, it has nothing to do with either. It has to do with control, neither of which you or I or ALPA has much.
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Very true.

I've noticed that tsquare is opposed to any measure or initiative desired by the pilot group that would cost Delta more money. He's taken it upon himself to tamp down our costs.

lulz..............
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Pay rates used to be based on stacking the deck for retirement, now however, you want to earn more money at the start of your career. So LBP helps younger pilots more so than older ones.
That's been my argument for many many months.
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