Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-19-2014, 10:41 AM
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02-19-2014, 10:43 AM
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02-19-2014, 10:45 AM
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Actually I'd like to see us be the only US airline to actually compete in MCO-EU. Its a mssive market, with more heavy jumbos there at any given time than we have flying all over the world total (well, almost) and I think we can compete. Of course, you have to get the plane there and back, and ATL-MCO is a market that's perhaps better served by the occasional heavy rather than spamming it with hourly frequency in a leisure market that doesn't reward that much frequency in the slightest. So the occasional 777 to MCO actually wouldn't be a bad idea.
That phrase is a catch all for bad revenue management because of how the original 777 debacle went down and DL ended up with only 8 or so and struggled to find out where to put them. DL made a lot of money doing L-1011's to MCO once because larger planes are generally cheaper seats than smaller planes, yet some high volume low yield markets have gravitated to smaller planes for no good reason other than "you go to war with the army you have" but as we get more we could see limited examples of that in ways that could maximise revenues and lower unit costs.
That phrase is a catch all for bad revenue management because of how the original 777 debacle went down and DL ended up with only 8 or so and struggled to find out where to put them. DL made a lot of money doing L-1011's to MCO once because larger planes are generally cheaper seats than smaller planes, yet some high volume low yield markets have gravitated to smaller planes for no good reason other than "you go to war with the army you have" but as we get more we could see limited examples of that in ways that could maximise revenues and lower unit costs.
Flying the 777 to MCO also makes sense if the AC arrives in ATL in the morning and is going to sit for 8 hours before going out again on a international flight. It is essentially a free airframe at that point and can reduce pilot training costs.
02-19-2014, 10:55 AM
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The company has a issue with Trip awards referencing 100 in 672. If you were denied any awards based on that I would double check to make sure you were in fact illegal. If not you have some cash coming.
02-19-2014, 11:04 AM
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If anybody has the deets on taking your spouse to SCL, please send me a PM. I know I have to pay 160, but exactly where that takes place in the airport and can we get it done without delaying the crew bus? Thanks in advance.
02-19-2014, 11:09 AM
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That's true. Their knowledge and my best interests don't always align. And after the bankruptcy negotiations I wouldn't think you would blindly trust them either.
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02-19-2014, 11:13 AM
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I'll take an exception to this. My fellow pilots and I want some things that will cost the company $.
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In order to have a truly industry leading contract that even gets close to getting our '96 wages back (adjusted for inflation) instead of C2k restoration, it is not going to be one of those "zero cost contracts" that management parrots to Wall Street. It's going to have an impact on their profitability.
Is that wrong?
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In order to have a truly industry leading contract that even gets close to getting our '96 wages back (adjusted for inflation) instead of C2k restoration, it is not going to be one of those "zero cost contracts" that management parrots to Wall Street. It's going to have an impact on their profitability.
Is that wrong?
Our bagtags and lanyards ought to say "C2016: Industry-Leading EVERYTHING!" and we ought to start wearing them now. Time to start shaping the battlefield.
That should be our (and DALPA's) goal...not three years from signing, or in a couple of cherry-picked areas using the company's/DALPA's jointly formulated fuzzy math.
RA and management want to be an "industry leading airline" without conceding an "industry leading" contract. It's their job to try to get away with it. So it's up to us to say, "you want to be an industry leading airline. Then show us an industry-leading contract". It's up to us to convey that message to DALPA. And we've got to be prepared to use every (legal) resource at our disposal to make it happen.
Of course shiznit, sailingfun, slowplay, acl65, and a host of others will tell us that's impossible, and once again attempt to lower our expectations heading into the contract.
But I'm optimistic that we won't buy DALPA's expenditure-reducing and responsibility-shirking methods again this time; at least not 62% of us.
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02-19-2014, 11:14 AM
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Bottom line, if your wife gets off the plane quickly and near the front of the line, she shouldn't be too delayed getting through the reciprocity tax line, and you could meet up with her prior to hitting immigrations/customs. Have fun SCL is a blast.
Edit: to follow-on, ~ 1/3 of our flight seemed to be Chileans who obviously don't have to pay the fee. Also, anyone that already has the stamp doesn't have to stop in the line. It is not a choke point when you pass the reciprocity line (meaning the Chileans/those with stamps just keep walking.) I think we were in/out of that line in 5 minutes. You could have her hustle off the plane and then just meet her just past the reciprocity tax line, where she will probably be finished and waiting for you.
Also, be aware that when non-revving out, they don't clear standbys until they are given a seat. So if you're working, you will already be on the airplane and won't really know if she's going to make it or not. We got to the airport 2-3 hours before departure, and ended up waiting around at the ticket counter for our names to be called - which was 20 minutes prior to push. We then ended up hauling ass through a very slow security/immigration (again for some reason?) line and ended up getting on board right at last call. That was definitely the most stressful part of the SCL airport experience. Arriving was a breeze, getting out not so much.
02-19-2014, 12:01 PM
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Anyone know if there are any sims left in Natco? Friend of a friend was called recently to head back over there and fire things up again...
02-19-2014, 12:04 PM
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Hit the nail on the head.
Our bagtags and lanyards ought to say "C2016: Industry-Leading EVERYTHING!" and we ought to start wearing them now. Time to start shaping the battlefield.
That should be our (and DALPA's) goal...not three years from signing, or in a couple of cherry-picked areas using the company's/DALPA's jointly formulated fuzzy math.
RA and management want to be an "industry leading airline" without conceding an "industry leading" contract. It's their job to try to get away with it. So it's up to us to say, "you want to be an industry leading airline. Then show us an industry-leading contract". It's up to us to convey that message to DALPA. And we've got to be prepared to use every (legal) resource at our disposal to make it happen.
Of course shiznit, sailingfun, slowplay, acl65, and a host of others will tell us that's impossible, and once again attempt to lower our expectations heading into the contract.
But I'm optimistic that we won't buy DALPA's expenditure-reducing and responsibility-shirking methods again this time; at least not 62% of us.
Our bagtags and lanyards ought to say "C2016: Industry-Leading EVERYTHING!" and we ought to start wearing them now. Time to start shaping the battlefield.
That should be our (and DALPA's) goal...not three years from signing, or in a couple of cherry-picked areas using the company's/DALPA's jointly formulated fuzzy math.
RA and management want to be an "industry leading airline" without conceding an "industry leading" contract. It's their job to try to get away with it. So it's up to us to say, "you want to be an industry leading airline. Then show us an industry-leading contract". It's up to us to convey that message to DALPA. And we've got to be prepared to use every (legal) resource at our disposal to make it happen.
Of course shiznit, sailingfun, slowplay, acl65, and a host of others will tell us that's impossible, and once again attempt to lower our expectations heading into the contract.
But I'm optimistic that we won't buy DALPA's expenditure-reducing and responsibility-shirking methods again this time; at least not 62% of us.
A year out from openers, and you have already built your "no" nest. You even have scapegoats already.
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