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Old 02-08-2014, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I'll be very senior one day!
I fixed it for ya!
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Old 02-08-2014, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DARR31
I have been trying to get back to SEA for some time, but with no luck on this AE.
Hard to hear about fellow Washingtonians trying to get out west and stuck commuting. I hope someone will explain to me why I'm wrong, but I don't see the 717 and hiring in the next 3 years as having an appreciable effect on helping guys get to SEA. Nobody is going to bid off SEA ERB to be a 717 CA.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Whidbey
Hard to hear about fellow Washingtonians trying to get out west and stuck commuting. I hope someone will explain to me why I'm wrong, but I don't see the 717 and hiring in the next 3 years as having an appreciable effect on helping guys get to SEA. Nobody is going to bid off SEA ERB to be a 717 CA.
Same in LA. In fact I keep running into Capts that move from the East Coast to West coast as they get older/more senior wanting to reinvent themselves out West. Nightmare for West Coast guys commuting to East Coast.
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Throw in the seat numbers and it sure looks like about a 16.6% increase in the number of seats compared to 2012, 13% compared to 2014. Possibly what, ASM increase of around 9% from now until 3 years from now?
Great analysis.

The data points we have now are definitely some missing dots. The investors/industry analysts would soil themselves if the above numbers were the plan.

You know something's not adding up when a Top-5 spinmeister parses his language this carefully:

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It's the schedule as of today. As I posted it can change. As of today the plan is to keep all the 88's and 320's at least through 2017.
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:28 AM
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The West coast has always been senior. SLC, LAX, and SEA (again) will always be senior. I remember when 727C's in SEA could hold the A position in the east. In my 25 years that has been how it is and it isn't going to change. I know a M88A that bid back to SEA 7ER B because he got tired of the transcon commute.
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
The West coast has always been senior. SLC, LAX, and SEA (again) will always be senior. I remember when 727C's in SEA could hold the A position in the east.
That was also the case when NWA had a Seattle base, super senior.
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by dbrownie
That was also the case when NWA had a Seattle base, super senior.
BOS and MIA were always senior too, until they were closed...

The Four Corner bases will always be senior, because that's where people want to live.

Just be glad they haven't closed LAX and SEA....yet. You know the five year plan changes every three weeks.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DARR31
Hey guys, I am about where you are too, feel the same way and await for the NYC displacement!

Now not to complain, but I think we are our worst enemy at times. I have been trying to get back to SEA for some time, but with no luck on this AE. On this last AE what got me were the 5 guys that got awarded the SEA 7ERB. Not counting the reinstatements, 4 currently hold the ER and live in their current base and the other is in the south, which to here is a 12 hr commute.

Now I do not know their stories, but I feel if they are to continue to live in one base and commute to another base, they are not helping the issues out west. As for the two that live in SLC and are going to commute to SEA, now I feel they are screwing the guys that are forced to commute to SLC from SEA. I have been told time and time again, that is the privlage of being senior. But I have another term for that, the FYBC.

As a 7 yr commuter, I hope to one day to be able to drive to work and not have to leave a day early and/or lose a day on the back end along with all the other commuting stresses. I wish commuting was a choice for me and I could move, but it is not. I just have a hard time understanding those that live in one base, are senior and choose to commute to another base. Is it for change of scenery? Please do tell!

PS- The snow is coming down here the Pudget Sound tonight. Looking like 4-6 inches But we will not shut down like ATL a couple of weeks ago
Some of it has to do with the flying. A buddy tells me that in SLC, they are deadheading in ALL THREE pilots to fly CDG for March. That's with an ER base in SLC! And the SLC trips are absolute garbage. 2 day 9 hour trips, 30 hour layovers all over the place...Only about 5 Asia trips he says. It's things like that which make pilots bid out of base... you just get fed up. Just bid ATL, stay home on the first and last day of your trip (deviate DH) and get paid another 12 hours for nothing. Work 8 days a month and make 80 hours. LAX has some of the worst trips imaginable if your goal is to have some time off. If ATL would spread some of the love around, build some trips that people actually want to fly and stop farming out the premium trips, there'd be a lot less incentive to commute.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:54 AM
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I love how people here throw around that they have been here 13,14,15 years and should be further along.....If you actually were flying here during the 2000's you were lucky to even have a job. Most major pilots on or near the bottom were furloughed or back in the regionals. So to then use that same time span to now WOW people with the indignation of your progress over such a LONG period is ridiculous.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:54 AM
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Going to try this one again hope someone has the answer. When do they put reserve look back guarantee on your time card. I should have received some last month and it is still not in there. Should I be calling someone about that?
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