Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-05-2014, 06:20 PM
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[QUOTE=Dorfman;1575112][QUOTE=gzsg;1575106]
Will you show where only 40% can hold ER as a captain?[/QUOT
The actual list of retiring pilots and their positions is on Deltanet.
Simply count the ones flying ER captain or above. It is much less than half.
Will you show where only 40% can hold ER as a captain?[/QUOT
The actual list of retiring pilots and their positions is on Deltanet.
Simply count the ones flying ER captain or above. It is much less than half.
02-05-2014, 06:27 PM
Works Every Weekend
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This time between football and baseball is always difficult.
The NBA and NHL just don't suffice.
March Madness helps fill the void.
But still.
The NBA and NHL just don't suffice.
March Madness helps fill the void.
But still.
02-05-2014, 07:13 PM
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)15 years later I'm flying for DAL, based in BOS when Mo'Ron decides to close all the little bases; BOS, ORD, MIA, IAH, MSY, and some I'm forgetting sure, but 99.9% of the BOS 767 guys said, "I'll just bid the ER in JFK. Should be an easy commute with the LGA Shuttle..."
I about died laughing. I said, "You do that, and you'll have a good time commuting when it starts snowing in NY. I'm bidding MD11 F/O in ATL."
I still remember being number 45 for takeoff out of JFK in the Turbo Commode, and then the front passed, and then they spun the airport, from 13 to 31... and two hours later we got airborne.
You can have it! The less I see of NYC, the happier I am. I hear that new terminal 4 is wonderful, and then taking the sky train to the bus, to the van, to the layover sounds like a hoot!
My mom said they got a foot of snow up in NH today, while I was out sailing in a T shirt and shorts, with my dog trying to drink up the lake! Any wonder I moved south? I have not had to shovel my car out in 15 years, and no, I do not miss that! I miss playing pond hockey and downhill skiing, but I make up for that by going sailing in 84 degrees in Feb.
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02-05-2014, 08:02 PM
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I am reading the 91 contract as I type this. End contract pay rates.
757 base rate=2.391996 or 143.52 per hour
767ER international 2.428672 or 145.72 per hour
767ER domestic=2.415154 or 144.91 per hour
Night, speed and international pay were the same.
Weight pay was 3 cents per lb per hour. Weights set at 230k for the 57 and 407k for the ER.
Final rates as published in today's contract would be:
757 base 143.72
Hour/speed 13.24
Mileage 13.24
Weight 6.90
Total 177.10
767ERint base 145.72
Hour/speed 13.24
Mileage 13.24
Weight 12.21
Total 184.41
Difference 7.31 per hour
International/nav pay was 6.50 per hour. The L1011 international paid 207.34 per hour. The 767ER never paid close to the L1011
For the new hires the contractual par rates were that convoluted back then. Much easier when they went to one rate.
757 base rate=2.391996 or 143.52 per hour
767ER international 2.428672 or 145.72 per hour
767ER domestic=2.415154 or 144.91 per hour
Night, speed and international pay were the same.
Weight pay was 3 cents per lb per hour. Weights set at 230k for the 57 and 407k for the ER.
Final rates as published in today's contract would be:
757 base 143.72
Hour/speed 13.24
Mileage 13.24
Weight 6.90
Total 177.10
767ERint base 145.72
Hour/speed 13.24
Mileage 13.24
Weight 12.21
Total 184.41
Difference 7.31 per hour
International/nav pay was 6.50 per hour. The L1011 international paid 207.34 per hour. The 767ER never paid close to the L1011
For the new hires the contractual par rates were that convoluted back then. Much easier when they went to one rate.
Interesting math. Still looking for the 1996 pay chart. But, in 1994, a 7ER Captain made a base rate that was 36 dollars per hour higher than an MD88 Captain. Today the difference is 19 dollars per hour. That's off higher rates, so adjusted for that it would be like making 40 dollars difference from the MD88 today. That gap went away because we took a huge cut on the 7ER fleet. As I said, we are flying it for what amounts to narrowbody rates.
It's interesting to look at those old pay charts, then factor in the touching trips, 6 weeks vacation for senior guys, 1 for 2, etc... we have a lot to recoup. I know the execs have kept up with inflation, and then some.
02-05-2014, 08:07 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
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CFB is, well, fun 20 year old kid who has all of the capabilities of 40 year old dad, and sometimes even does stuff better, but he isn't 40 year old dad who owns the house.
My favorite was college basketball. It's like that college sister who you don't see for 11 months out of the year you forgot she even existed. But then when she does come home for a month and oh it's a blast. You have a great time, then she leaves again and you immediately don't even think about her for the next 11 months.
02-05-2014, 08:19 PM
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Hahaha! I spent my childhood flying cancelled checks in/out of JFK, LGA and EWR (down the river, statue visual to 29, high speed taxi to Butler Aviation, we'd make SW look like slowpokes
15 years later I'm flying for DAL, based in BOS when Mo'Ron decides to close all the little bases; BOS, ORD, MIA, IAH, MSY, and some I'm forgetting sure, but 99.9% of the BOS 767 guys said, "I'll just bid the ER in JFK. Should be an easy commute with the LGA Shuttle..."
I about died laughing. I said, "You do that, and you'll have a good time commuting when it starts snowing in NY. I'm bidding MD11 F/O in ATL."
I still remember being number 45 for takeoff out of JFK in the Turbo Commode, and then the front passed, and then they spun the airport, from 13 to 31... and two hours later we got airborne.
You can have it! The less I see of NYC, the happier I am. I hear that new terminal 4 is wonderful, and then taking the sky train to the bus, to the van, to the layover sounds like a hoot!
My mom said they got a foot of snow up in NH today, while I was out sailing in a T shirt and shorts, with my dog trying to drink up the lake! Any wonder I moved south? I have not had to shovel my car out in 15 years, and no, I do not miss that! I miss playing pond hockey and downhill skiing, but I make up for that by going sailing in 84 degrees in Feb.
15 years later I'm flying for DAL, based in BOS when Mo'Ron decides to close all the little bases; BOS, ORD, MIA, IAH, MSY, and some I'm forgetting sure, but 99.9% of the BOS 767 guys said, "I'll just bid the ER in JFK. Should be an easy commute with the LGA Shuttle..."
I about died laughing. I said, "You do that, and you'll have a good time commuting when it starts snowing in NY. I'm bidding MD11 F/O in ATL."
I still remember being number 45 for takeoff out of JFK in the Turbo Commode, and then the front passed, and then they spun the airport, from 13 to 31... and two hours later we got airborne.
You can have it! The less I see of NYC, the happier I am. I hear that new terminal 4 is wonderful, and then taking the sky train to the bus, to the van, to the layover sounds like a hoot!
My mom said they got a foot of snow up in NH today, while I was out sailing in a T shirt and shorts, with my dog trying to drink up the lake! Any wonder I moved south? I have not had to shovel my car out in 15 years, and no, I do not miss that! I miss playing pond hockey and downhill skiing, but I make up for that by going sailing in 84 degrees in Feb.
02-05-2014, 08:24 PM
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02-05-2014, 08:44 PM
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Yeah, that the difference I noticed between the ALPA one that was lacking... WidgetLog.com allows you to cut and paste to upload whole rotations rather than inputting the data manually leg by leg.
02-05-2014, 08:55 PM
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"The January 2014 AE bid award was posted on February 4. The goal of the AE was to adjust staffing for the
2014 summer operation, with our primary focus on the 7ER First Officer position. The AE award resulted in 296
AEs, 25 reinstatements and no displacements. On the bid we posted 50 7ER First Officer openings and filled
36 leaving 14 unfilled. ATL had six 7ER-B unfilled positions and DTW had eight. Other unfilled positions
included: ATL73NB (6), DTW73NB (2), NYC73NB (31), DTW320B (5), NYC320B (13), ATLM88B (22),
NYCM88B (19) and ATL717B (8). These positions will be filled by new hires and posted on future bids. "
Newhires to the 7ER again! ... in ATL of all places, too. Wow.
Next AE in a few weeks.
2014 summer operation, with our primary focus on the 7ER First Officer position. The AE award resulted in 296
AEs, 25 reinstatements and no displacements. On the bid we posted 50 7ER First Officer openings and filled
36 leaving 14 unfilled. ATL had six 7ER-B unfilled positions and DTW had eight. Other unfilled positions
included: ATL73NB (6), DTW73NB (2), NYC73NB (31), DTW320B (5), NYC320B (13), ATLM88B (22),
NYCM88B (19) and ATL717B (8). These positions will be filled by new hires and posted on future bids. "
Newhires to the 7ER again! ... in ATL of all places, too. Wow.
Next AE in a few weeks.
02-05-2014, 09:27 PM
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