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Old 02-05-2014, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
125 additional airframes? Somehow I doubt that, sorry.
Yet to be delivered in the next 3 years:
70 717's
90 739's
10 333's
20 321's (the last 10 are 4 years out)

190 airframes
-63 old 752's
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127 additional airframes in the next 3 years

I didn't doubt the number at first but good catch, he was short by a couple growth airframes.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Louis CK sums up modern-day air travel, with something rare these days -- praise for pilots.

Louis CK - Contemporary Perceptions about Aviation and Pilots in the USA (Comedy) - YouTube
He's pretty funny when he is critical of us too ... love his description of MEL relief, which is probably about right actually.



Although he says Delta, we've never had the ability to listen in on Comm 1. The description of the landing roll out does sound very MD88 though.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
The sign says "Today Hit Music" ... someone just took it literally.



Bieber can't duck nearly as fast as our President.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Your numbers are a bit off. We have somewhere around 138 757's actually flying today. That leaves about 63 airframes to be parked. They will be parked over the next 3 years not 18 months. 9 to 12 domestic 767's will also be parked. During that at period we will take delivery of roughly 200 airframes. If we don't have a economic meltdown there will be very few displacements. If we were parking them in the next 18 months there would be no hiring going on.
Take a moment to think about what you wrote.

We have little to no retirements ER captain and above. We are parking (according to your post) 63 757s ad 9 to 12 767s.

If you were a junior ER captain why would you bid off to a lower paying aircraft? Not to mention a crappier aircraft?

Zero displacements is a management fantasy dream.

We have 9 fleets and 8 pilot bases. We have tiny AEs that result in massive training.

Going forward management has done nothing proactive. They (by their own admission) did not hire a single pilot for FAR 117.

Time will tell.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Simple solution to that pilot shortage issue, end the age 65 rule and replace it with "as long as you have a first class medical".

This legislation passes and the next day a couple hundred regional guys turn in their two-week notice.

Many families can't survive another 5+ years of stagnation in the right seat of a regional. IMHO, raising the retirement age is putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound. It will do more harm than good.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Yet to be delivered in the next 3 years:
70 717's
90 739's
10 333's
20 321's (the last 10 are 4 years out)

190 airframes
-63 old 752's
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127 additional airframes in the next 3 years

I didn't doubt the number at first but good catch, he was short by a couple growth airframes.
Hoping you are right, but not betting on it.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
This legislation passes and the next day a couple hundred regional guys turn in their two-week notice.

Many families can't survive another 5+ years of stagnation in the right seat of a regional. IMHO, raising the retirement age is putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound. It will do more harm than good.
Totally agree. Unless you're in or near the bonus round, in which case its 100% gain and 0% loss. If anyone challenges your support in that case, play the victim card as if you are the only one ever harmed by anything in the industry, and spin it so that somehow its "fair" to make the vast majority of the remaining pilots eat and therefore pay for it and have to end up working the same amount of years to pay for the stagnation they inherited to pay for the bonus round.

Proponents of further raising the age might at least have a fishing line thin tightrope of morality to walk on if all they wanted was to start over at the bottom for those "bonus round" years, but they will squeal righteous indignation over the entitlement of the very seniority they acrued for the entirety of their career with an earlier retirement age.
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Old 02-05-2014, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Exactly! They should all recline that far!

"Hey, how about a neck rub to put me to sleep?"

But seriously, I cannot sleep while sitting bolt upright, and a 3" recline doesn't help much either.

Maybe they should have one side of the aisle seat's all recline wayyyy back, for us "Sleepers" and the other side's seats not recline at all, for the "Laptop Workerbees" ? Or maybe have the back half of the plane's seats all recline deeply, and the window shades all glued shut, and a "No Screaming Babies Allowed" sign, then have the front half of the airplane's seats stuck strait up, for those inflight blogger/workers?

I sit down in one of our economy seats and it kind of looks like



Now true story, sat down one day in a middle seat one time and I want to say on this particular jet my sitting pitch is about 3" further than the seat pitch. So my knees were jammed into the back of the seat in front of me. And I couldn't turn to the side thanks to the jet being full, my only option was to sit tall to minimize the pain but that put my head well above the seat back.

So as soon as we rotated on this 4 hour flight the 5'3" girl in front of me reclines all the way back then promptly leans over to her boyfriend and falls asleep on his shoulder. Not using the reclined seat at all. Now for the next 4 hours not only can I not put my tray table down, I can't even read a magazine unless I hold it to my nose. And how about peanuts? Well, that'd be nice but I can't open a bag if I have to keep my elbows together because my two seat neighbors have deemed the arm rest to be theirs. A drink? I can't get it around the reclined seat back. When I got off the jet, I had trouble walking.

So if I get in my seat and Timbo sits in front of me, see's me, realizes the golden opportunity he has and fully reclines his seat smirking the entire time, well, I'll patiently wait until he's asleep and then find a new use for that Skymall magazine...





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Old 02-05-2014, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo

Not sure what the DTW 777 A situation is, but they don't look to be gaining any there in that same staffing forcast, so they are not shifting the seats from ATL to DTW, just eliminating them. When is the last time they had an AE with 777/747 Catps?
Unless they buy more airframes or increase the current fleet utilization there won't be AE's, they can backfill vacancies without adding new positions.

Whether they will or not remains to be seen.
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Old 02-05-2014, 09:54 AM
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saw this at the grocery store,



age 60. maybe we underestimate it? maybe age 65 was right.


/trolling the senior pilot's with their 1980 pin up girl


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