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02-01-2014, 05:46 AM
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BTW, has anyone heard from Alpharomeo? Hopefully he is doing ok. If you are reading this you are still in our thoughts and prayers
02-01-2014, 06:16 AM
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Coming off an X day, you are obligated to check your schedule at 1500 to before 0200 BASE TIME (The Reserve day following your last X day). If you are on a Vacation Day, no need to and this does not apply.
You are always on Long Call Status, unless they convert you to SC or give you a trip (FDP). You need at least 10 hours REST (12 hours if the start of SC or FDP is 0200-0559) before the start of SC or FDP.
i.e. If you have not acknowledged your assigned SC or RDP by 10 hours to go (12 hours for 0200-0559), you are not legal to do it.
You are always on Long Call. You are only obligated to check your schedule every NINE (9) hours via computer or VRU..Its time stamped.
If in this 9 hour check, there are no assignments, you can shut your phone off until the next 9 hours. i.e. Im on LC and at 1000 I check my schedule via icrew but I am not assigned anything so I shut my phone off for 9 hours. At 1900 I am obligated to check my schedule.
In other words. Long Call Pilot is on a 12 Hour Leash but is only obligated to check his schedule every 9 hours and acknowledge it no later than 3 hours before the start of an FDP. Or acknowledge a SC assignment no later than 1 hour prior to SC.
Also, when you are given a REST PERIOD, you have to acknowledge no Later than 6 hours AFTER THE REST BEGINS. Then you can turn everything off.
One important note, a LC pilot has no obligation of responsibility for contact during the 12 hour immediately prior to scheduled report time of rotation or 10 hours prior to start of ASSIGNED SC.
I hope this helps. This is what I come up with by looking over the 117 notes and literature.
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You are always on Long Call Status, unless they convert you to SC or give you a trip (FDP). You need at least 10 hours REST (12 hours if the start of SC or FDP is 0200-0559) before the start of SC or FDP.
i.e. If you have not acknowledged your assigned SC or RDP by 10 hours to go (12 hours for 0200-0559), you are not legal to do it.
You are always on Long Call. You are only obligated to check your schedule every NINE (9) hours via computer or VRU..Its time stamped.
If in this 9 hour check, there are no assignments, you can shut your phone off until the next 9 hours. i.e. Im on LC and at 1000 I check my schedule via icrew but I am not assigned anything so I shut my phone off for 9 hours. At 1900 I am obligated to check my schedule.
In other words. Long Call Pilot is on a 12 Hour Leash but is only obligated to check his schedule every 9 hours and acknowledge it no later than 3 hours before the start of an FDP. Or acknowledge a SC assignment no later than 1 hour prior to SC.
Also, when you are given a REST PERIOD, you have to acknowledge no Later than 6 hours AFTER THE REST BEGINS. Then you can turn everything off.
One important note, a LC pilot has no obligation of responsibility for contact during the 12 hour immediately prior to scheduled report time of rotation or 10 hours prior to start of ASSIGNED SC.
I hope this helps. This is what I come up with by looking over the 117 notes and literature.
TEN
If you never receive a call from ATL, you are not obligated to check your schedule while on call.
Your check every 9 hours assures you will not miss the 3 hour prior acknowledgement window (1 hr for start of SC), but if your phone never rings, there won't be anything on your schedule.
02-01-2014, 06:41 AM
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What's a big bang for the buck sailboat that a family of 4 could spend a weekend on the lake? I've always had a thing for sailboats and used to drool over the Hunter models, but then became a pilot so that's literally out water...... My only experience is in a Hobie Cat 14 and even that was an experiment. I'm thinking about taking a sailing course on Lanier and renting some this summer. I'm a hobbiest woodworker and thought it would be cool to take a classic wooden boat and restore it...
They can be found for pretty cheap (less than $2,000) and are a good family weekender lake type boat. Most of them have a swing keel so you can retract it, put the boat on a trailer and take it home, vs. spending money for a slip.
A 19' Flying Scot http://flyingscot.com/ is a great lake boat and a 17' Oday Daysailor is good too, but no cabin if you want to sleep on it.
http://boats.smartcarguide.com/o-day-17-sailboat
Probably the best deal if you're new to sailing is to go to a nearby sailing club, see what they've got for club boats. Usually once you join the club, you can use their boats anytime they are available, and for us Airline types that works out, because the 9-5 M-F guys are only at the clubs on the weekends, while we are flying, so you'll have the pick of the boats on your days off during the week.
Most yacht clubs have a kids program too, and adult learn to sail programs, on the weekends, so you can drop the little darlings off there, they'll jump in an Opti, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimist_%28dinghy%29
while you and mom go out on a bigger club boat. http://www.llsc.com/membership/
I started in little dinghys and then raced monohulls for years, but when I got my first taste of real speed, out on the trapeeze wire of a friend's Hobie 20 I was blown away; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVb_ljex8Sc
So I got hooked on catamarans. BUT...because you are going three times faster than a monohull, spray is flying, so you will get wet if there's any wind at all. That's why my wife won't go near my catamaran. They are better in the south where the water is warmer.
Up in Portsmouth, NH we had to wear wet suits, even in July, when racing out in the Atlantic. That ocean water never gets above 50 degrees!
If you can't find a club near you, check out the US Sailing site, they have lists of clubs: http://training.ussailing.org/Learni...ng_started.htm
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02-01-2014, 08:13 AM
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Good stuff Timbo. That will give me something to research on my two week trip I start tomorrow
02-01-2014, 08:32 AM
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02-01-2014, 08:34 AM
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Nope. 10 AM SC on day one is a fantasy floated by panic mode schedulers hoping to see how many pilots nibble the hook earlier than that even though they don't have to.
02-01-2014, 08:37 AM
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02-01-2014, 08:40 AM
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02-01-2014, 09:01 AM
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The only time you are obligated to check your schedule while on RES is prior to release from the last leg of a rotation, and prior to 0200 on your first on-call day. The rest of the time you are required to be available for contact on LC, and promptly available for contact on SC.
If you never receive a call from ATL, you are not obligated to check your schedule while on call.
Your check every 9 hours assures you will not miss the 3 hour prior acknowledgement window (1 hr for start of SC), but if your phone never rings, there won't be anything on your schedule.
If you never receive a call from ATL, you are not obligated to check your schedule while on call.
Your check every 9 hours assures you will not miss the 3 hour prior acknowledgement window (1 hr for start of SC), but if your phone never rings, there won't be anything on your schedule.
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02-01-2014, 09:50 AM
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Check Craigs List for old Catalina 22's. catalina22.org
They can be found for pretty cheap (less than $2,000) and are a good family weekender lake type boat. Most of them have a swing keel so you can retract it, put the boat on a trailer and take it home, vs. spending money for a slip.
A 19' Flying Scot FLYING SCOT SAILBOATS - The Best Daysailer in the World is a great lake boat and a 17' Oday Daysailor is good too, but no cabin if you want to sleep on it.
http://boats.smartcarguide.com/o-day-17-sailboat
Probably the best deal if you're new to sailing is to go to a nearby sailing club, see what they've got for club boats. Usually once you join the club, you can use their boats anytime they are available, and for us Airline types that works out, because the 9-5 M-F guys are only at the clubs on the weekends, while we are flying, so you'll have the pick of the boats on your days off during the week.
Most yacht clubs have a kids program too, and adult learn to sail programs, on the weekends, so you can drop the little darlings off there, they'll jump in an Opti, Optimist (dinghy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
while you and mom go out on a bigger club boat. Memebership - FAQ - Lake Lanier Saling Club
I started in little dinghys and then raced monohulls for years, but when I got my first taste of real speed, out on the trapeeze wire of a friend's Hobie 20 I was blown away; Hobie 20 sailing from Tampa Florida - YouTube
So I got hooked on catamarans. BUT...because you are going three times faster than a monohull, spray is flying, so you will get wet if there's any wind at all. That's why my wife won't go near my catamaran. They are better in the south where the water is warmer.
Up in Portsmouth, NH we had to wear wet suits, even in July, when racing out in the Atlantic. That ocean water never gets above 50 degrees!
If you can't find a club near you, check out the US Sailing site, they have lists of clubs: Getting started
They can be found for pretty cheap (less than $2,000) and are a good family weekender lake type boat. Most of them have a swing keel so you can retract it, put the boat on a trailer and take it home, vs. spending money for a slip.
A 19' Flying Scot FLYING SCOT SAILBOATS - The Best Daysailer in the World is a great lake boat and a 17' Oday Daysailor is good too, but no cabin if you want to sleep on it.
http://boats.smartcarguide.com/o-day-17-sailboat
Probably the best deal if you're new to sailing is to go to a nearby sailing club, see what they've got for club boats. Usually once you join the club, you can use their boats anytime they are available, and for us Airline types that works out, because the 9-5 M-F guys are only at the clubs on the weekends, while we are flying, so you'll have the pick of the boats on your days off during the week.
Most yacht clubs have a kids program too, and adult learn to sail programs, on the weekends, so you can drop the little darlings off there, they'll jump in an Opti, Optimist (dinghy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
while you and mom go out on a bigger club boat. Memebership - FAQ - Lake Lanier Saling Club
I started in little dinghys and then raced monohulls for years, but when I got my first taste of real speed, out on the trapeeze wire of a friend's Hobie 20 I was blown away; Hobie 20 sailing from Tampa Florida - YouTube
So I got hooked on catamarans. BUT...because you are going three times faster than a monohull, spray is flying, so you will get wet if there's any wind at all. That's why my wife won't go near my catamaran. They are better in the south where the water is warmer.
Up in Portsmouth, NH we had to wear wet suits, even in July, when racing out in the Atlantic. That ocean water never gets above 50 degrees!
If you can't find a club near you, check out the US Sailing site, they have lists of clubs: Getting started
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