Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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The 80's were the best. Nice to see a familiar face at the end : )
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For the EWR-CDG, I get:
FDP = 1:30 brief + 7:30 block = 9:00
Flight time = 6:50
Time available for breaks = 5:20 (:30 to TOC, back in your seat 1:00 before landing)
Time required for PF = 2:00
Time available to be split between PM and relief = 3:20
Time required for PM = 1:30 (this is met)
You can give both the PM and RP 1:40.
FDP midpoint is 4:30 before block-in, 4:20 before landing. The FP break must start NET 4:20 before landing. Take out 1 hour where everyone must be back in their seat. That leaves 3:20 between the earliest start of the PF break, and the end of the 3rd break.
If the FP complies with the "2:00 in the 2nd 1/2 of FDP" requirement, that leaves, at most, 1:20 for a 3rd break. Therefore, that pilot cannot be the PM, who requires 1:30.
Assuming you want to meet the requirements of the FAR for augmented crews, and the FOM, I think you have to move the FP to 3rd break for these shorter flights.
At 7:30 Flight Time, your FDP should be ~ 9:40 (1:30 briefing + :30 taxi-out + :10 taxi-in). At that point, you can give 2:00 to everyone. Your mid-point on the FDP is 4:50 before block-in, 4:40 before landing, so you have 3:30 between the mid-point, and TOD. So you can't give 2:00 to everyone as a single block.
So 7:30 FT is a milestone where you can treat everyone the same, but you still have to have the FP on 3rd break to meet all requirements.
For the EWR-CDG, I get:
FDP = 1:30 brief + 7:30 block = 9:00
Flight time = 6:50
Time available for breaks = 5:20 (:30 to TOC, back in your seat 1:00 before landing)
Time required for PF = 2:00
Time available to be split between PM and relief = 3:20
Time required for PM = 1:30 (this is met)
You can give both the PM and RP 1:40.
FDP midpoint is 4:30 before block-in, 4:20 before landing. The FP break must start NET 4:20 before landing. Take out 1 hour where everyone must be back in their seat. That leaves 3:20 between the earliest start of the PF break, and the end of the 3rd break.
If the FP complies with the "2:00 in the 2nd 1/2 of FDP" requirement, that leaves, at most, 1:20 for a 3rd break. Therefore, that pilot cannot be the PM, who requires 1:30.
Assuming you want to meet the requirements of the FAR for augmented crews, and the FOM, I think you have to move the FP to 3rd break for these shorter flights.
At 7:30 Flight Time, your FDP should be ~ 9:40 (1:30 briefing + :30 taxi-out + :10 taxi-in). At that point, you can give 2:00 to everyone. Your mid-point on the FDP is 4:50 before block-in, 4:40 before landing, so you have 3:30 between the mid-point, and TOD. So you can't give 2:00 to everyone as a single block.
So 7:30 FT is a milestone where you can treat everyone the same, but you still have to have the FP on 3rd break to meet all requirements.
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The 80's were the best. Nice to see a familiar face at the end : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eduNjwNvcH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eduNjwNvcH4
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I was there, the 1980s hair styles, clothes and Disco music SUCKED!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKRSgjqZB_c
Oh, and Johnny Cash, Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass!![Wink](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
And Pete Seeger, RIP.
Give me 1968, a Z28, Jimmy Hendrix and Led Zeppelin any day!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKRSgjqZB_c
Oh, and Johnny Cash, Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass!
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And Pete Seeger, RIP.
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The music from the 2000's had some high points in it.
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I was there, the 1980s hair styles, clothes and Disco music SUCKED!
Give me 1968, a Z28, Jimmy Hendrix and Led Zeppelin any day!![Big Grin](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKRSgjqZB_c
Oh, and Johnny Cash, Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass!![Wink](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
And Pete Seeger, RIP.
Give me 1968, a Z28, Jimmy Hendrix and Led Zeppelin any day!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKRSgjqZB_c
Oh, and Johnny Cash, Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass!
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And Pete Seeger, RIP.
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It took my neighbor 7 hours to get home from downtown... yikes! Apparently there are bunches of cars out on the roads that ran out of gas out on the roads.
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It was in the 70s here today.
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