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Old 01-24-2014, 07:01 AM
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JAN AE just came out. Vacancies in 765 A and B, SEA 7ER A and B, ATL 7ER B and the narrowbodies.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:21 AM
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It would have been nice to see a couple of CA/FO openings for the 330 or other wide bodies. Hopefully some senior FO's will finally upgrade.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
JAN AE just came out. Vacancies in 765 A and B, SEA 7ER A and B, ATL 7ER B and the narrowbodies.
This is the most disturbing part of AE.

"The 7ER block hours will peak in July and decrease by 25 percent by the time we reach December 2014."

Currently 1493 7ER capt - 25% = 373 displacements
Currently 1791 7ER F/O - 25% = 447 displacements

YIKES

That is a lot of people bidding and displacing to lower paying jobs.

And yes we will have the 330 coming on property in 2015 but they will barely offset the the above reduction.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:26 AM
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For comparason purposes, here's UALs January Bid:

Vacancy Summary:
Captains
ORD777CA 15
DCA777CA 20
SFO777CA 10
DCA756CA 5
EWR737CA 50
ORD737CA 10
DEN737CA 10
LAX737CA 10

First Officers
ORD777FO 10
DCA777FO 20
SFO777FO 20
DCA756FO 5
EWR76TFO 75

That's 45 top paying widebody captain seats, 85 narrowbody captain seats, and lots and lots of right seat movement.

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Old 01-24-2014, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BoyFromSouth
It would have been nice to see a couple of CA/FO openings for the 330 or other wide bodies. Hopefully some senior FO's will finally upgrade.

With over 300 Capts being displaced off of the 7ER beginning in August 2014, I think most Capt positions in any category will be bid by existing 7ER capts.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by daldude
With over 300 Capts being displaced off of the 7ER beginning in August 2014, I think most Capt positions in any category will be bid by existing 7ER capts.
But we are in the midst of a major "upguage" of the airline.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:32 AM
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It's always "next year" the retirements will kick in. Same old s--t, different day.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by daldude
This is the most disturbing part of AE.

"The 7ER block hours will peak in July and decrease by 25 percent by the time we reach December 2014."

Currently 1493 7ER capt - 25% = 373 displacements
Currently 1791 7ER F/O - 25% = 447 displacements

YIKES

That is a lot of people bidding and displacing to lower paying jobs.

And yes we will have the 330 coming on property in 2015 but they will barely offset the the above reduction.
You are taking one number and running wildly with it. The statement was that December flying hours will be 25% less than the peak hours of mid-summer--not that the airline needed 25% fewer pilots in those categories!

I doubt that there are ANY displacements from the 7ER in December, and if there are any, they will be modest.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by daldude
With over 300 Capts being displaced off of the 7ER beginning in August 2014, I think most Capt positions in any category will be bid by existing 7ER capts.
There will be zero captains displaced off the 7ER "beginning in August." Where do you get this stuff? If you are bound and determined to be depressed, no one can stop you.
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
There will be zero captains displaced off the 7ER "beginning in August." Where do you get this stuff? If you are bound and determined to be depressed, no one can stop you.
If you're a dog that's been beaten it's whole life, it's natural for you to cringe when the owner walks in.

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