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Old 01-14-2014, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy

Sailing does NOT speak for the MEC in any way, shape or form.
It's a free intrawebz, however, so he can post whatever to his (or her) heart's content.

If you DO want to see what the MEC has to say, call or email your rep

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Sailing is generally lock step with the MEC. But your point is taken... what he posts here is certainly nothing official (at least not officially ).

I did email my reps when I first found out about this (when an email from an SLC rep was posted on another forum). I exchanged multiple emails with all four of my reps. Three of the four seemed to be too busy playing politician to directly answer my concerns. Lots of dancing around it, but no direct answers from the three. However, I did speak to one of them on the phone after he indicated via email that he agreed with me and wanted to call me. This particular rep gets it. He said he was going to call the SLC rep, presumably to straighten him out. I have no idea whether that happened or not.

During the email exchange with my reps, the chairman of the scheduling committee got copied in on it. He wrote me and was crystal clear that his view is the 8 hour sleep opportunity rule means 8 hours behind the door. If the chairman of the scheduling committee is telling people this, then I'm pretty sure it is (at least at this time) the official interpretation of the MEC. And since that interpretation is a clear violation of the FAR, I decided to do what I could to bring this issue to light. So here I am. Hopefully, by shining a bright light on this, some of the cockroaches will have to scatter for the shadows and all that will be left is the truth.
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
What up with the stock price this week... yowza!!!!!
I'm not sure but with UAL now trading over 46 and not performing as good as DAL I could easily see DAL up over 40 in the next six months or less.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=UAL
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
If the DPA wants to represent Delta pilots in such instances, it can't make a judgement call on which rules and who it wants to protect.
No union can represent people who decide to willfully violate Federal criminal statutes. Not even your most beloved ALPA.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
The DPA seeks to shut up dissenters by placing any who dare speak up under a cloud of harassment by subpoena.
Again, you're just making stuff up. DPA is doing no such thing. The only people under a cloud are the ones who decided to willfully break Federal law in an attempt to shut up the DPA.

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A union has an affirmative duty to protect members, not sue them and try to get them fired. You don't see the difference?
You know the difference Bar, yet you purposely feign ignorance. Why?

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This is going to be such a pleasant place to work when what you say on the flight deck can get you sued, or fired.
Does excessive White Russian consumption bring on over-dramatic behavior?

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Old 01-14-2014, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I know you know the difference between regulation and criminal statute. Yet you post this nonsense anyway. Why do you do that Bar?

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When is the vote?

I cringed when I got Tim's email yesterday detailing his naming of John Doe as a plaintiff. It's really starting to get petty and WAY off the path.

Are you telling me that the only thing worthwhile of an update from DPA in the past 3-4 weeks is an email half full of conspiracy theory revolving around an unknown "person of interest?" What a sideshow.

What is DPA doing to further my career? I couldn't care less that Tim still can't unscrew his website - if anything actually happened to it in the first place. Further, the fact that he is prioritizing this joke over any meaningful action is yet another indication that he has no vision of how to accomplish his goal of new representation for the Delta pilots.
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
When is the vote?

I cringed when I got Tim's email yesterday detailing his naming of John Doe as a plaintiff. It's really starting to get petty and WAY off the path.

Are you telling me that the only thing worthwhile of an update from DPA in the past 3-4 weeks is an email half full of conspiracy theory revolving around an unknown "person of interest?" What a sideshow.

What is DPA doing to further my career? I couldn't care less that Tim still can't unscrew his website - if anything actually happened to it in the first place. Further, the fact that he is prioritizing this joke over any meaningful action is yet another indication that he has no vision of how to accomplish his goal of new representation for the Delta pilots.
"starting to get petty"? Where've you been brotha? It's an act of desperation, scorched earth policy. Nothing else.
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:42 PM
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Default FAR 117 & International Flights Crew Rest Bre

Q: How will the new rule affect crew rest breaks on augmented flights?


A: The pilot flying must have two hours of in-flight rest available in the second half of the flight FDP.


How are guys using this info? Does the PF have to take the third break on a 3 man crew?
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:51 PM
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Carl,

What anyone will remember about the DPA drive is that the DPA began by suing.

Lets see, they hire USAPA's law firm and next ... .
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Old 01-14-2014, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
So be it. I'd be much happier with 12-hr layovers than "productive" trips. Then again, I probably value my health more than most pilots.
You are not alone. Time to work out a couple of times a week. Not live on only sandwiches from a vending machine, and getting eight hours of sleep a night. Pretty clear this is the intent of the rule.
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Old 01-14-2014, 08:48 PM
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Thanks for the Pro Diem recommendation. I went online Monday morning and downloaded that widget and went through the steps with it to download the information from icrew. Then I uploaded it at 11:20, got it back at 5:30pm the same day.
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Old 01-14-2014, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Thanks for the Pro Diem recommendation. I went online Monday morning and downloaded that widget and went through the steps with it to download the information from icrew. Then I uploaded it at 11:20, got it back at 5:30pm the same day.
I ordered my flightline one the other day. I'll let you guys know when it actually comes.
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