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Old 01-14-2014, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Carl? You want to explain how a so called union is suing Delta pilots and wanting to get them fired?
This is more of your ongoing problems with the English language Bar. Three things wrong in one sentence. First, DPA is not a union yet. Second, you or I don't know whether the sued John Doe is a Delta pilot. Third, nobody at DPA has ever said they wanted anyone fired.

These emotional menstrual outbursts of yours do not help your "ALPA at all costs" position.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
This is one of those, "where is the outrage" moments.
No, this is yet another one of those "Bucking Bar making it up" moments after an apparent White Russian overdose.

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Guess anyone who is critical of the DPA can expect a subpoena for their hard drive, or a trip to New York.
No, just people who break Federal law by computer hacking and disrupting interstate commerce.

On another note, thank you for posting DPA stuff on this thread. I'm so glad to see that it's OK for me to do that again!

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Old 01-14-2014, 06:36 PM
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Hasn't that always been the rule? I don't think that calling in fatigued just showed up with 117.
No, but having to certify that you are absolutely fit to operate the flight, in writing, IS something new.

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Folks, sailingfun is demonstrating exactly what I fear DALPA is going to do.
Sailing does NOT speak for the MEC in any way, shape or form.
It's a free intrawebz, however, so he can post whatever to his (or her) heart's content.

If you DO want to see what the MEC has to say, call or email your rep

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Old 01-14-2014, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
My record before 117 was 9:35 block time in one day... plus no more reduced rest. It's far from perfect but it certainly is better.
The over 8.5 block gets you 12 hours of rest rule in the NWA contract was jettisoned in the process of the JCBA. That was pretty awesome.

We'd be sitting darn pretty right now if we still had it in the PWA.


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Old 01-14-2014, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
This is more of your ongoing problems with the English language Bar. Three things wrong in one sentence. First, DPA is not a union yet. Second, you or I don't know whether the sued John Doe is a Delta pilot. Third, nobody at DPA has ever said they wanted anyone fired.
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Mods, can we name names? The lawsuit makes this a matter of public record.

The DPA claims it is a union in it's press release, which is believed to follow the language of the complaint. The DPA says it was formed as such and why wouldn't it be?

The DPA has stated this was done by Delta pilot(s) who supports ALPA.

DPA "Members" have called for the firing of the alleged perps.

DPA "Members" have stated in writing they plan to use John Doe subpoenas to gather documentation, which I guess would be the hard drives and, or, depositions from those of us who the DPA does not like.

Delta pilots have every right to be outraged. We've been sued! It is coercion prior to your vote in April (if your spokesman is telling the truth).
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Mods, can we name names? The lawsuit makes this a matter of public record.

The DPA claims it is a union in it's press release, which is believed to follow the language of the complaint. The DPA says it was formed as such and why wouldn't it be?

The DPA has stated this was done by Delta pilot(s) who supports ALPA.

DPA "Members" have called for the firing of the alleged perps.

DPA "Members" have stated in writing they plan to use John Doe subpoenas to gather documentation, which I guess would be the hard drives and, or, depositions from those of us who the DPA does not like.

Delta pilots have every right to be outraged. We've been sued! It is coercion prior to your vote in April (if your spokesman is telling the truth).
Since you're the king of selective outrage, let us know when we have a right to be outraged about multiple counts of Federal law breaking.

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Old 01-14-2014, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Since you're the king of selective outrage, let us know when we have a right to be outraged about multiple counts of Federal law breaking.

Carl
An altitude misunderstanding, or inadvertently taking the wrong taxiway is breaking a Federal Regulation.

If the DPA wants to represent Delta pilots in such instances, it can't make a judgement call on which rules and who it wants to protect.

The DPA seeks to shut up dissenters by placing any who dare speak up under a cloud of harassment by subpoena.

A union has an affirmative duty to protect members, not sue them and try to get them fired. You don't see the difference?

I wish your friends would hurry up and call this vote.

This is going to be such a pleasant place to work when what you say on the flight deck can get you sued, or fired.
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:11 PM
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What up with the stock price this week... yowza!!!!!
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
The over 8.5 block gets you 12 hours of rest rule in the NWA contract was jettisoned in the process of the JCBA. That was pretty awesome.

We'd be sitting darn pretty right now if we still had it in the PWA.


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Perhaps... that might have even further increased the amount of 30+ hour layovers we have from this most recent jump.
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Mods, can we name names? The lawsuit makes this a matter of public record.

The DPA claims it is a union in it's press release, which is believed to follow the language of the complaint. The DPA says it was formed as such and why wouldn't it be?

The DPA has stated this was done by Delta pilot(s) who supports ALPA.

DPA "Members" have called for the firing of the alleged perps.

DPA "Members" have stated in writing they plan to use John Doe subpoenas to gather documentation, which I guess would be the hard drives and, or, depositions from those of us who the DPA does not like.

Delta pilots have every right to be outraged. We've been sued! It is coercion prior to your vote in April (if your spokesman is telling the truth).
Totally agreed. This may be the final nail in the coffin for the DPA if they handle this in a vengeful manner.
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
An altitude misunderstanding, or inadvertently taking the wrong taxiway is breaking a Federal Regulation.
I know you know the difference between regulation and criminal statute. Yet you post this nonsense anyway. Why do you do that Bar?

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