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If you only have "8 hours behind the door," you do NOT have the opportunity for 8 hours of sleep. No way, no how. At that point, it doesn't matter how you feel... you are in violation of FAR 117.
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Yeah. Because that's always been an effective catch-all in our "mission-oriented" culture. Guys will always be reluctant to call in fatigued, even when they are fatigued, due to a myriad of reasons (paperwork, letting down then rest of the crew, potential "meeting.") I don't see how 117 changes that. An absolute minimum 12-hr rest would have made 117 a lot more effective.
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Hasn't that always been the rule? I don't think that calling in fatigued just showed up with 117.
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Isn't there a difference here though? Calling in fatigued is one thing. Not having the required 8 hour SOT is another. You may not feel fatigued, but without the 8 hour SOT, you are violating the new FAR.
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Not quite. The minimum layover is now 10 hours... and you have to have the opportunity to get 8 hours of sleep. That's a big improvement over what we had before. The rest of FAR 117, not so much... I'm not all that impressed with it so far.
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Yeah. Because that's always been an effective catch-all in our "mission-oriented" culture. Guys will always be reluctant to call in fatigued, even when they are fatigued, due to a myriad of reasons (paperwork, letting down then rest of the crew, potential "meeting.") I don't see how 117 changes that. An absolute minimum 12-hr rest would have made 117 a lot more effective.
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I think I already know the answer to this one, but with 117 a reserve pilot can no longer commute in the day of a reserve assignment correct? I believe CASS would be able to document movement prior to a reserve assignment thus prove a rest violation.
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