Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-05-2014, 11:24 AM
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I got this text from a friend a little while ago
It's melting down quick here. I just dh to an overnight to dh back. My capt has done nothing but dh since Friday. One was even scheduled when he signed in to dh to avl to cover the overnight and dh back. He called scheduling and they told him he had to do it. They won't answer and if they do they won't look at what your calling about. We need bodies and airplanes bad...
01-05-2014, 12:34 PM
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I got this text from a friend a little while ago:
It's melting down quick here. I just dh to an overnight to dh back. My capt has done nothing but dh since Friday. One was even scheduled when he signed in to dh to avl to cover the overnight and dh back. He called scheduling and they told him he had to do it. They won't answer and if they do they won't look at what your calling about. We need bodies and airplanes bad...
It's melting down quick here. I just dh to an overnight to dh back. My capt has done nothing but dh since Friday. One was even scheduled when he signed in to dh to avl to cover the overnight and dh back. He called scheduling and they told him he had to do it. They won't answer and if they do they won't look at what your calling about. We need bodies and airplanes bad...
I know the wx is bad, but I think the airlines were gambling on not many delays and getting close to 9 hours or the min overnight, and getting hosed. A Delta friend of mine had that happen a few days ago, got to the overnight a few hours late - not enough for the 10 hrs rest so he was replaced, he overnighted and DHed back to base.
01-05-2014, 01:01 PM
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Southwest Airlines faced its worst nightmares Thursday at Midway Airport - Chicago Business Journal
01-05-2014, 01:59 PM
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Looks like SWA may get to donate some $ for butts in seats too long on the tarmac.
Southwest Airlines faced its worst nightmares Thursday at Midway Airport - Chicago Business Journal
Southwest Airlines faced its worst nightmares Thursday at Midway Airport - Chicago Business Journal
01-05-2014, 02:10 PM
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Looks like SWA may get to donate some $ for butts in seats too long on the tarmac.
Southwest Airlines faced its worst nightmares Thursday at Midway Airport - Chicago Business Journal
Southwest Airlines faced its worst nightmares Thursday at Midway Airport - Chicago Business Journal
A spokesman for the DOT said this morning that the Department was aware of the situation Thursday night at Midway and was looking into the matter. The new rule about tarmac delays longer than three hours allows the DOT to impose a fine of as much as $27,500 per passenger affected by the delays.
But a DOT spokesman said any actual fine more typically is a comprise worked out between the airline and the DOT.
But a DOT spokesman said any actual fine more typically is a comprise worked out between the airline and the DOT.
01-05-2014, 03:06 PM
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Check out this montage of 5 videos on SWA debacle....
Midway Southwest flights resume; Problems persist after major cancellations, tarmac delays | abc7chicago.com#
Midway Southwest flights resume; Problems persist after major cancellations, tarmac delays | abc7chicago.com#
01-05-2014, 03:34 PM
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01-05-2014, 03:35 PM
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A "Delta Airlines" plane skids off JFK runway. Hmmm
Delta Airlines plane skids off JFK runway | New York Post
Delta Airlines plane skids off JFK runway | New York Post
01-05-2014, 05:09 PM
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Okay, I'm going to have to start dealing with 117 in a couple of days so a quick, easy question.
According to FAR 117.17 Table C, a departure between 0700 and 1259 has a max duty day of 17 hrs with a 3 man crew and class 1 rest facility. Is that 17 hours extendable to 19 hrs by signing the release? Just want to make sure I'm right.
Denny
According to FAR 117.17 Table C, a departure between 0700 and 1259 has a max duty day of 17 hrs with a 3 man crew and class 1 rest facility. Is that 17 hours extendable to 19 hrs by signing the release? Just want to make sure I'm right.
Denny
01-05-2014, 05:49 PM
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Okay, I'm going to have to start dealing with 117 in a couple of days so a quick, easy question.
According to FAR 117.17 Table C, a departure between 0700 and 1259 has a max duty day of 17 hrs with a 3 man crew and class 1 rest facility. Is that 17 hours extendable to 19 hrs by signing the release? Just want to make sure I'm right.
Denny
According to FAR 117.17 Table C, a departure between 0700 and 1259 has a max duty day of 17 hrs with a 3 man crew and class 1 rest facility. Is that 17 hours extendable to 19 hrs by signing the release? Just want to make sure I'm right.
Denny
The short answer is you have the table figured out correctly. You can walk at 17 hrs, you must walk at 19 hrs.
gotchas:
-Make sure you have the Class 1 Rest facility...they vary by fleet and even tail number within fleets, and MEL's can change those too...Class 1's are an endangered species on the 330
-FDP for FAR 117 is original Report to block in...the :30 after is PWA
-the LATT's on the flight plan addendum (all the way at the bottom) will show the can/must take off times. don't take off past the second one.
-3 man Flight time is limited by FAR to 13 hrs....if you have a lengthy taxi out...check it!
-If they call you anytime to push back your report, push or take-off....call your union.
-Signing the release just gives them the actual piece of paper to extend..you can literally call the dispatcher as you sign it telling him "no extensions"...or you can wait until 1 minute before the 17 hrs....or you can go 15 mins into the 17 hrs and call it...point is it can be modified at any time by the PIC...repeat....it can be modified at any time by the PIC. Anytime.>
Do not do public math...let the guys with computers do it. Call your union if you have any questions. Fly safe.
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Last edited by 8 Cherry Garcia; 01-05-2014 at 05:59 PM. Reason: this stuff is complex
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