Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-26-2013, 01:48 PM
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Personal opinion only, but I think it goes back to the days when we were compensated at a much higher level. Back in those days we did not really need holiday pay since we were already compensated in line with other professionals such as doctors and lawyers.
Well fast forward 15/20 /30 years and guess what? Our compensation has not kept up with other professionals, for numerous reasons beyond the scope of this post, and we never quite pushed the issue of holiday pay.
Maybe the time is now or at least 2016?
Scoop
Personal opinion only, but I think it goes back to the days when we were compensated at a much higher level. Back in those days we did not really need holiday pay since we were already compensated in line with other professionals such as doctors and lawyers.
Well fast forward 15/20 /30 years and guess what? Our compensation has not kept up with other professionals, for numerous reasons beyond the scope of this post, and we never quite pushed the issue of holiday pay.
Maybe the time is now or at least 2016?
Scoop
Holiday/Super Bowl pay = family: "It's okay, if you get paid extra then it's worth it and we'll [insert plan B]."
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12-26-2013, 01:49 PM
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T,
Personal opinion only, but I think it goes back to the days when we were compensated at a much higher level. Back in those days we did not really need holiday pay since we were already compensated in line with other professionals such as doctors and lawyers.
Well fast forward 15/20 /30 years and guess what? Our compensation has not kept up with other professionals, for numerous reasons beyond the scope of this post, and we never quite pushed the issue of holiday pay.
Maybe the time is now or at least 2016?
Scoop
Personal opinion only, but I think it goes back to the days when we were compensated at a much higher level. Back in those days we did not really need holiday pay since we were already compensated in line with other professionals such as doctors and lawyers.
Well fast forward 15/20 /30 years and guess what? Our compensation has not kept up with other professionals, for numerous reasons beyond the scope of this post, and we never quite pushed the issue of holiday pay.
Maybe the time is now or at least 2016?
Scoop
12-26-2013, 02:02 PM
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If we did that they'd eliminate long sits and unproductive trips. Why get rid of a good thing?
12-26-2013, 02:22 PM
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12-26-2013, 03:09 PM
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I don't think that's correct.
Comair got the first CRJ in December, 1993. ASA got their first 100 seat jet in 1995. Alger left when he was 60 years old in October, 1998, one year after Leo Mullin became CEO.
He may have "gone to battle" (I don't know but never read or heard anything about him doing so) but he lost that battle long before he left. I believe his leaving had more to do with a change of CEO than anything else.
His replacement Mac Armstrong may or may not have been a good USAF 4 star, but he was a terrible EVP of Operations. Clueless and disconnected.
Comair got the first CRJ in December, 1993. ASA got their first 100 seat jet in 1995. Alger left when he was 60 years old in October, 1998, one year after Leo Mullin became CEO.
He may have "gone to battle" (I don't know but never read or heard anything about him doing so) but he lost that battle long before he left. I believe his leaving had more to do with a change of CEO than anything else.
His replacement Mac Armstrong may or may not have been a good USAF 4 star, but he was a terrible EVP of Operations. Clueless and disconnected.
12-26-2013, 05:21 PM
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I think... and I am not sure.. but if you use it for your 401k, and you fill it to the 415 limits, you then get paid that excess as regular income, much in the same way you would be getting the profit sharing if you took it as pay. But.. that money would be working for you in the retirement account sooner. There's that old TVM thing again... JMHO, DYODD however....
But considering how much of our overall compensation was destroyed in the construction of the "New Delta", which looks suspiciously like the old Delta, with the money moved out of the orange envelopes, and re-assigned to more... valuable corporate objectives, I figure that the company ought to have the decency to show that what remain of mine... is not their business.
Someone spent the time thinking about what I should be advised to do. The composed the message, then spent (my) money to send me the postcard.
12-26-2013, 06:07 PM
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The company is not providing that advice for our benefit.
Does the company get a tax break if the money goes directly into our 401Ks?
Is there a kickback from Fidelity?
Does the company get a tax break if the money goes directly into our 401Ks?
Is there a kickback from Fidelity?
12-26-2013, 06:44 PM
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Say it isn't so?!
Just so we're clear, I'm not gratuitously whining. I can deal with the past, and with where we are. I get it. I just find it offensive that an entity that no longer protects us like a parent should, should find it acceptable to give paternalistic advice, self-serving or not. The not-so-subtle implication: we don't take care of you, but we want to make sure you're taken care of, by taking care of yourselves. The health "advice" fits in the same category, as far as I'm concerned.
It's all crap.
Just so we're clear, I'm not gratuitously whining. I can deal with the past, and with where we are. I get it. I just find it offensive that an entity that no longer protects us like a parent should, should find it acceptable to give paternalistic advice, self-serving or not. The not-so-subtle implication: we don't take care of you, but we want to make sure you're taken care of, by taking care of yourselves. The health "advice" fits in the same category, as far as I'm concerned.
It's all crap.
12-26-2013, 07:04 PM
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So, does anybody get fired for the Delta airfare "price glitch"?
12-26-2013, 07:08 PM
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