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Old 12-24-2013, 07:50 AM
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Delta to retire last commercial service Douglas DC-9 aircraft


ATLANTA, Dec. 24, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (DAL) on Jan. 6, 2014 will retire its remaining Douglas DC-9 aircraft following Flight 2014 scheduled to depart Minneapolis/St. Paul for Atlanta at 4:20 p.m. (CST), the last scheduled commercial flight of the DC-9 by a major U.S. airline.



Delta to retire last commercial service Douglas DC-9 aircraft - Yahoo Finance
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by The Cavalier
This...staff the airline. What is currently happening should surprise no one the least of which being scheduling/planning which is tasked with preparing for things like holiday flying. They saw this coming and accepted it. They decided that our passengers and the crews should pay the price rather than hire enough crews to properly run the airline so they could deliver the product our customers paid for....on Christmas Eve no less.

When enough flights get canceled that the media picks up on the story what will be the company's response? What will DALPA's response be?



Correct. Flight Ops wanted to hire much earlier in the year but was shut down by either the BOD or the "bean-counters," or maybe both.

Well now the "bill" has come due. Come to think of it, does anyone know of any companies that went from good to great by listening to bean-counters?

This crew shortage was 100% avoidable. OBTW - I think Holiday pay would definitely help. Some would plan on working the holidays in November, but by now everyone has plans, told their family and friends they are off etc - too late for most IAs.

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Old 12-24-2013, 08:22 AM
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Will they assign a white slip with conflict where scheduling borrows from Paul to pay Peter today?
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:24 AM
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Questions about GSWC....

Can you get a GSWC on a carryover trip? Or do they just modify your next month schedule and drop the trip?

Going from RSV to line holder......
Can you get a RSV assignment with a late sign-in if your line has an early sign-in the next day? If it leaves you less than required rest, does it drop your trip with pay? (The trip is a day trip)
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:32 AM
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:39 AM
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Fellas, I'd like to wish all of you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year.

This board continues to be the best source of real-time, and occasionally true, information about the air line. It helps me remember, while I wander in the wilderness that is the active-duty recall, that I am, in fact, an airline pilot.

May your power available always exceed your power required,
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti
Fellas, I'd like to wish all of you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year.

This board continues to be the best source of real-time, and occasionally true, information about the air line. It helps me remember, while I wander in the wilderness that is the active-duty recall, that I am, in fact, an airline pilot.

May your power available always exceed your power required,
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Old 12-24-2013, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by The Cavalier
This...staff the airline. What is currently happening should surprise no one the least of which being scheduling/planning which is tasked with preparing for things like holiday flying. They saw this coming and accepted it. They decided that our passengers and the crews should pay the price rather than hire enough crews to properly run the airline so they could deliver the product our customers paid for....on Christmas Eve no less.

When enough flights get canceled that the media picks up on the story what will be the company's response? What will DALPA's response be?
This happens every single year at Christmas. They are never going to staff the airline for the Christmas holiday. If they did it would probably mean management was so incompetent the airline would not be in business long. Every airline contract has mechanisms to allow for surges. The company will get through this week just fine and I would be surprised if any flights get cancelled for a lack of crews. I have seen 25 years of OMG they are going to cancel tons of flights for no crew on a holiday. Somehow it never happens. If you want the holiday off screen your calls and stay home if you held the days off. Works fine lasts a long time!
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
This happens every single year at Christmas. They are never going to staff the airline for the Christmas holiday. If they did it would probably mean management was so incompetent the airline would not be in business long. Every airline contract has mechanisms to allow for surges. The company will get through this week just fine and I would be surprised if any flights get cancelled for a lack of crews. I have seen 25 years of OMG they are going to cancel tons of flights for no crew on a holiday. Somehow it never happens. If you want the holiday off screen your calls and stay home if you held the days off. Works fine lasts a long time!
Hockeypilot already posted a flight being canceled for no crew, hours ago this morning.
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Old 12-24-2013, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
sorry i totally disagree.....two words.(frickin hire!)

with all the thousands of great pilots that want to work here this is unacceptable for a mainline.
Definitely agree with hiring, but apparently we are more concerned with running pilot staffing as lean as possible. The company wants to treat the 4 big holidays the same as any other day of the year, but that doesn't work. Start with offering premium holiday pay (+2-3 hours pay) then go beyond that by establishing a LOA with the union that allows greens slips to be issued out further in advance so scheduling doesn't have to run reserves dry and IA at the last moment.

There has been a ton of trips in the open time pot since the end of November. Money motivates people, and I'm sure the extra pay expenses would more than outweigh the revenue loss from flight cancellations and bad PR. Canceling because of a lack of crews is something that should not be happening.
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