Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-19-2013, 04:12 PM
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From the ALPA Guide: "Before beginning any reserve or FDP assignment, the flightcrew member must have received a 30
consecutive-hour rest within the past 168 consecutive
hours that precedes the beginning of the FDP."
The key: this is a look back rule. By the end of that last FDP you may be able to look back 168hrs and not see 30 consecutive hours rest -- and still be legal.
consecutive-hour rest within the past 168 consecutive
hours that precedes the beginning of the FDP."
The key: this is a look back rule. By the end of that last FDP you may be able to look back 168hrs and not see 30 consecutive hours rest -- and still be legal.
12-19-2013, 04:43 PM
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Spring non-rev question. I would like to take the family to one of the seasonal European locations at the beginning of Jun. Most of these locations (Athens, Prague etc) don't start service until the end of May. How crazy are loads when these routes just start up? Are they full from the get-go or does it take a few weeks until the heavy summer loads take effect. Will travel on S-2 just like most other active employees. Thanks!
12-19-2013, 04:46 PM
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Now I see what you were getting at. Due to the 168 hour rolling window the "30 hour break" precedes working 7 calendar days in a row with no intervening break.
I agree, not a pretty picture, and hard to believe that this is under the new "scientifically based" rules.
Just another example of "the Man keeping us down."
Scoop
I agree, not a pretty picture, and hard to believe that this is under the new "scientifically based" rules.
Just another example of "the Man keeping us down."
Scoop
12-19-2013, 05:20 PM
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I'm trying to wrap my brain around our current and future reserve obligations. I'm just about 9 weeks from starting my 28 th year and find myself on reserve in January in ATL on the 320. I REALLY don't like reserve but here I am. Here is why. Delta offered all 320. Captains that had January vacation to sell it back to the company. Apparently to cover 717 trips and charter ops with the new FARs.
System wide- 690-vacation days were given back. 89 pilots participated.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated for a total of 71
That equates to 38 percent of ATL320A pilots on reserve! Even if you're just about to start your 28th year! Yikes
System wide- 690-vacation days were given back. 89 pilots participated.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated for a total of 71
That equates to 38 percent of ATL320A pilots on reserve! Even if you're just about to start your 28th year! Yikes
12-19-2013, 05:28 PM
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I'm trying to wrap my brain around our current and future reserve obligations. I'm just about 9 weeks from starting my 28 th year and find myself on reserve in January in ATL on the 320. I REALLY don't like reserve but here I am. Here is why. Delta offered all 320. Captains that had January vacation to sell it back to the company. Apparently to cover 717 trips and charter ops with the new FARs.
System wide- 690-vacation days were given back. 89 pilots participated.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated for a total of 71
That equates to 38 percent of ATL320A pilots on reserve! Even if you're just about to start your 28th year! Yikes
System wide- 690-vacation days were given back. 89 pilots participated.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated for a total of 71
That equates to 38 percent of ATL320A pilots on reserve! Even if you're just about to start your 28th year! Yikes
12-19-2013, 05:36 PM
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System wide- 690-vacation days were given back. 89 pilots participated.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated
This is why we will never recapture anything meaningful as a pilot group. Look how easy it is for the company to get pilots to sell their negotiated vacation for short term bucks. Sad.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated
This is why we will never recapture anything meaningful as a pilot group. Look how easy it is for the company to get pilots to sell their negotiated vacation for short term bucks. Sad.
12-19-2013, 05:39 PM
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89 pilots sold their vacations. Absolutely disgusting. I'm ashamed of them.
12-19-2013, 05:42 PM
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I'm trying to wrap my brain around our current and future reserve obligations. I'm just about 9 weeks from starting my 28 th year and find myself on reserve in January in ATL on the 320. I REALLY don't like reserve but here I am. Here is why. Delta offered all 320. Captains that had January vacation to sell it back to the company. Apparently to cover 717 trips and charter ops with the new FARs.
System wide- 690-vacation days were given back. 89 pilots participated.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated for a total of 71
That equates to 38 percent of ATL320A pilots on reserve! Even if you're just about to start your 28th year! Yikes
System wide- 690-vacation days were given back. 89 pilots participated.
In ATL, 10 pilots participated for a total of 71
That equates to 38 percent of ATL320A pilots on reserve! Even if you're just about to start your 28th year! Yikes
12-19-2013, 05:45 PM
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Talk about turning the potential "thrill of victory" into the "agony of defeat!"
An oldie but a goodie
:ABC Wide World of Sports Intro 1981 - YouTube
Extra Bonus - Check out the Airline sponsor.
Scoop
12-19-2013, 05:53 PM
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Talk about turning the potential "thrill of victory" into the "agony of defeat!"
An oldie but a goodie :
ABC Wide World of Sports Intro 1981 - YouTube
Extra Bonus - Check out the Airline sponsor.
Scoop
An oldie but a goodie
:ABC Wide World of Sports Intro 1981 - YouTube
Extra Bonus - Check out the Airline sponsor.
Scoop
Vinko Vinko Vinko!!!!!
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