Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Gets Weekends Off
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I am going to be out of touch, on a cruise without internet access, during the bidding period in January. I'm planning on bidding reserve.
Can I put a bid in my default bid? Because it's reserve, it should be pretty simple and just bidding days. Will this work or do I need to get someone to bid for me?
Can I put a bid in my default bid? Because it's reserve, it should be pretty simple and just bidding days. Will this work or do I need to get someone to bid for me?
Runs with scissors
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I am going to be out of touch, on a cruise without internet access, during the bidding period in January. I'm planning on bidding reserve.
Can I put a bid in my default bid? Because it's reserve, it should be pretty simple and just bidding days. Will this work or do I need to get someone to bid for me?
Can I put a bid in my default bid? Because it's reserve, it should be pretty simple and just bidding days. Will this work or do I need to get someone to bid for me?
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
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I just checked on DL Net, none of the F/O bids are posted yet. Yowza, I hope this isn't the "New Normal". Also we had an unprecedented amount of open time left over in the ATL 777 A. 35 LINES of open time!! On a normal month we might have 2-5 trips in open time. But 35 LINES??!! Many of those lines were worth 62 hours!
The new FAR117 rest rules have ruined one of our most prevalent trips (NRT-SIN) and turned it into a 10 day, 62hr. nightmare which is nearly impossible to build lines with. That trip, and trips like that in all the other categories, is probably what's causing the bids to take so long to be processed, and causing a huge amount of open time to be left over.
God help us everyone!
(the guys who bid reserve should make a killing using Rolling Thunder and picking up that trip, twice!)
The new FAR117 rest rules have ruined one of our most prevalent trips (NRT-SIN) and turned it into a 10 day, 62hr. nightmare which is nearly impossible to build lines with. That trip, and trips like that in all the other categories, is probably what's causing the bids to take so long to be processed, and causing a huge amount of open time to be left over.
God help us everyone!
(the guys who bid reserve should make a killing using Rolling Thunder and picking up that trip, twice!)
I just checked on DL Net, none of the F/O bids are posted yet. Yowza, I hope this isn't the "New Normal". Also we had an unprecedented amount of open time left over in the ATL 777 A. 35 LINES of open time!! On a normal month we might have 2-5 trips in open time. But 35 LINES??!! Many of those lines were worth 62 hours!
The new FAR117 rest rules have ruined one of our most prevalent trips (NRT-SIN) and turned it into a 10 day, 62hr. nightmare which is nearly impossible to build lines with. That trip, and trips like that in all the other categories, is probably what's causing the bids to take so long to be processed, and causing a huge amount of open time to be left over.
God help us everyone!
(the guys who bid reserve should make a killing using Rolling Thunder and picking up that trip, twice!)
The new FAR117 rest rules have ruined one of our most prevalent trips (NRT-SIN) and turned it into a 10 day, 62hr. nightmare which is nearly impossible to build lines with. That trip, and trips like that in all the other categories, is probably what's causing the bids to take so long to be processed, and causing a huge amount of open time to be left over.
God help us everyone!
(the guys who bid reserve should make a killing using Rolling Thunder and picking up that trip, twice!)
Hopefully that translates into more 777 pilots.
I just checked on DL Net, none of the F/O bids are posted yet. Yowza, I hope this isn't the "New Normal". Also we had an unprecedented amount of open time left over in the ATL 777 A. 35 LINES of open time!! On a normal month we might have 2-5 trips in open time. But 35 LINES??!! Many of those lines were worth 62 hours!
The new FAR117 rest rules have ruined one of our most prevalent trips (NRT-SIN) and turned it into a 10 day, 62hr. nightmare which is nearly impossible to build lines with. That trip, and trips like that in all the other categories, is probably what's causing the bids to take so long to be processed, and causing a huge amount of open time to be left over.
God help us everyone!
(the guys who bid reserve should make a killing using Rolling Thunder and picking up that trip, twice!)
The new FAR117 rest rules have ruined one of our most prevalent trips (NRT-SIN) and turned it into a 10 day, 62hr. nightmare which is nearly impossible to build lines with. That trip, and trips like that in all the other categories, is probably what's causing the bids to take so long to be processed, and causing a huge amount of open time to be left over.
God help us everyone!
(the guys who bid reserve should make a killing using Rolling Thunder and picking up that trip, twice!)
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However, I did see something I'm going to have to guard against in my bids--with all these 30 hour layos, they have BUILT IN 7 DAY rest, and they can just back-to-back you! Before, it was block hours in 7 days (30 in 7), which pretty much forced them to give you 1 or 2 days off after a 3 or 4 day, so the next 3 or 4 day didn't exceed 30in7. That's gone now, they just have to show 30 hours of rest in 7 days (essentially), so they can just bang trips right against each other! They've got me away from home 9 days in a row, domestic commuter! All trips commutable home, but CAN'T actually go home due to next trip starting next day... all legal now because every trip has a 30 hour layo in it!
So how's that "anti fatigue FAR" working out for us? 9 days of flying, washing my underwear in the sink, 3 long legs a day when flying. I'm sure I'll be super on day 8 and 9. I keep looking thinking there must be a rule violated here, but it appears they can fly you as much as they want basically so long as you get an impossible to attune to 30 hour layo with a 0200 your-time wake for a 3 leg final day... Hopefully I'll be able to drop one of these trips!
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Part 117 is to fatigue what Obamacare is to healthcare...
ATL 88B reason report backdoor up as well
Be aware Crew Resources did put a blurb in their letter this month about accessing schedules early via an backdoor method, they may be interim bids being tested. Let's see, paraphrasing from them:
Don't trust the backdoor, if somehow wrangle your way into the backdoor, be sure to carefully check your junk over well when you're out to be sure it's not a "dirty load", they coulda been just running some sh*t for testing in there that you really don't want. They're worried about you damaging the integrity of their system by forcing your way in thru the backdoor unexpectedly.
Or something like that.
Don't trust the backdoor, if somehow wrangle your way into the backdoor, be sure to carefully check your junk over well when you're out to be sure it's not a "dirty load", they coulda been just running some sh*t for testing in there that you really don't want. They're worried about you damaging the integrity of their system by forcing your way in thru the backdoor unexpectedly.
Or something like that.
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