Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-11-2013, 07:11 PM
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12-11-2013, 07:24 PM
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Just read the new procedure to get from the plane to the hotel van pick point in JFK. To include taking either the Howard Beach or Jamaica Station Train to Federal Circle, just to get to the hotel van pick up point. Has anyone done this yet? How long did it take to get to hotel from plane?
It appears to me this process could take 50 to 70 min just to get from the plane to sitting on the van. If this is the case it is unacceptable and not in compliance with the spirit of PWA section 5.E.5 addressing the 20 min wait before obtaining transportation.
Why are we giving up terminal to hotel transportation? This is just the continuing trend of QOL issues being given away. Or am I making to big of a deal out of this?
Is MARTA to hotel in ATL next?
It appears to me this process could take 50 to 70 min just to get from the plane to sitting on the van. If this is the case it is unacceptable and not in compliance with the spirit of PWA section 5.E.5 addressing the 20 min wait before obtaining transportation.
Why are we giving up terminal to hotel transportation? This is just the continuing trend of QOL issues being given away. Or am I making to big of a deal out of this?
Is MARTA to hotel in ATL next?
12-11-2013, 07:25 PM
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I'm hoping for a tragedy to occur on Jan 6, though.
Here's to your friend being out 20 bucks and that captain out 500!
12-11-2013, 07:28 PM
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"From an investment standpoint, Delta Air Lines (DAL) no longer wants to be a passenger carrier.
The airline is instead targeting the kind of consistent financial returns Wall Street has come to expect from railroads and truckers, from UPS (UPS) and other “high-quality industrial transportation companies,” as Delta executives explained repeatedly during the airline’s annual investor conference in New York today. “We no longer benchmark ourselves to the airline set,” Delta President Ed Bastian told analysts."
I guess that explains why DALPA doesn't think it appropriate for us to expect compensation as good as FedEx, UPS, and SWA pilots. Gotta keep it "realistic," given our "competitive set."
The airline is instead targeting the kind of consistent financial returns Wall Street has come to expect from railroads and truckers, from UPS (UPS) and other “high-quality industrial transportation companies,” as Delta executives explained repeatedly during the airline’s annual investor conference in New York today. “We no longer benchmark ourselves to the airline set,” Delta President Ed Bastian told analysts."
I guess that explains why DALPA doesn't think it appropriate for us to expect compensation as good as FedEx, UPS, and SWA pilots. Gotta keep it "realistic," given our "competitive set."
To look at the 2013 numbers pilot compensation will be up another 10.8 percent which should put the average Delta pilot around 174,000 a year with no increase at SW. 2014 should bump the average Delta pilot to just under 180K a year and a additional 1 percent into the retirement package with no increase at SW.
All and all a remarkable comeback from a company that was bankrupt in 2005. When you go before the NMB the above numbers are what will be in play. I know you read the powerpoint presentation from the head of the NMB when she flew to Atlanta to lay out the ground rule for our contract negotiations to the MEC. She made it very clear that any release would be contingent on our proposals being reasonable and the definition of reasonable would be our standing amongst the other passenger airlines.
12-11-2013, 07:35 PM
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disregard .............
12-11-2013, 07:46 PM
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I was trying to find funny indian hunting tiger pictures, but they all were dead tigers in front of indians. Killing an endagered species isn't all that funny... more tragic.
I'm hoping for a tragedy to occur on Jan 6, though. Here's to your friend being out 20 bucks and that captain out 500!
I'm hoping for a tragedy to occur on Jan 6, though.
Here's to your friend being out 20 bucks and that captain out 500!
12-11-2013, 07:48 PM
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I really need to create an APC specific butthurt form.
12-11-2013, 07:53 PM
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12-11-2013, 07:57 PM
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She's saying War Eagle.
Or Go Tigers!
We take either.
12-11-2013, 07:59 PM
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We sell a commodity at Delta. Its not the same commodity sold at UPS or Fedex as our primary business. Southwest does sell the same commodity and in 2012 their average pilot made 157,000 dollars. The average pilot at Delta made 158,000 and change. The average Delta pilot received a pension benefit package worth 51,000 dollars. The average SouthWest pilots package was 27,466. The average Delta pilot flew 52 block hours a month in 2012 at SW it was 64.5. Total block hour costs at Delta which is the one number wallstreet, management and the NMB really care about was 941 dollars an hour. SW was at 698 dollars an hour. To make that a really honest comparison because of the fleet mix Delta's narrowbody cost was 911 per hour verses 692 at SW.
To look at the 2013 numbers pilot compensation will be up another 10.8 percent which should put the average Delta pilot around 174,000 a year with no increase at SW. 2014 should bump the average Delta pilot to just under 180K a year and a additional 1 percent into the retirement package with no increase at SW.
All and all a remarkable comeback from a company that was bankrupt in 2005. When you go before the NMB the above numbers are what will be in play. I know you read the powerpoint presentation from the head of the NMB when she flew to Atlanta to lay out the ground rule for our contract negotiations to the MEC. She made it very clear that any release would be contingent on our proposals being reasonable and the definition of reasonable would be our standing amongst the other passenger airlines.
To look at the 2013 numbers pilot compensation will be up another 10.8 percent which should put the average Delta pilot around 174,000 a year with no increase at SW. 2014 should bump the average Delta pilot to just under 180K a year and a additional 1 percent into the retirement package with no increase at SW.
All and all a remarkable comeback from a company that was bankrupt in 2005. When you go before the NMB the above numbers are what will be in play. I know you read the powerpoint presentation from the head of the NMB when she flew to Atlanta to lay out the ground rule for our contract negotiations to the MEC. She made it very clear that any release would be contingent on our proposals being reasonable and the definition of reasonable would be our standing amongst the other passenger airlines.
If you're going to project our increased compensation, to be fair I think it would also be reasonable to include a projection for our increased productivity... ALV+15 comes to mind.
I'm also curious how you calculated the value of pension benefits.
Just curious. Thank you for the informative post.
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