newKnow

I think that's right. That's the way I understood it.

badflaps

If you want to see how bad it can get, Google Witter vs. Delta Air Lines.

Dash8widget

I really hope that check and lurker are correct and what I have been saying is not. I understand where you guys are coming from but I keep running up against this point: When the company assigns you a long call rotation, as long as it's legal (both FAR and PWA) at the time of assignment, the contract basically says two things - you MAY acknowledge the assignment anytime up to 3 hours prior or schedule report. So, it's up to YOU when you acknowledge as long as it meets that requirement - I think we all get that. BUT, it's also up to YOU to be ABLE to report for said assignment - both physically (ie. commuting) and legally. In other words, you have to meet BOTH requirements. And in this case, they don't really contradict each other. It's just that one requirement is a lot more restrictive than the other. All the company has to do is make sure that the rotation is assigned legally.

Please, ALPA, tell me I'm wrong!!!
(Or, at least tell me something)

dalad

Did you ever fly with Captain WOW? I did and he was definitely quite the narcissist. IMO he wasn't a bad guy, just full of sh!t, he had to be one of the top five BS'ers I have ever met. A lot of guys couldn't stand him and his BS.

RonRicco

And bidding closes in two days. It would be nice to know what the reserve rules are for January before submitting a bid.

scambo1

You got that right.

badflaps

No doubt. But he ended up rubbing DAL's nose in it. I'm just saying they play rough sometimes.... Watch out. RA is still on Lorenzo's Christmas card list.

Check Essential

This doesn't just affect reserves.

We have a lot of senior lineholders who love green slips. They are not going to like it one bit when they figure out they can never get another same day greenie.
Same deal for white slips. Its going to be a lot harder for a lineholder who is short just to fill up.
Being "senior" just lost a lot of it's power.

I'm not sure management has thought that one through either. They better have a plan for putting a lot more guys on short call. Or watch out for reroutes.

scambo1

Check,

If what you are saying is true, we are short thousands of pilots. In my category, the big change is 3 nights sleep back home after an ULH. This can be mitigated by making trips longer, so I don't think it will be super-negative. However, if you need scheduled rest before a whiteslip / greenslip, the company cant cover open time the way we are manned.

There is no question that reroute is the new shortcall for domestics.

Herkflyr

Captain W.O.W. was a much despised pilot at DAL (from what I have heard, to be fair I never met the guy) and I know of not one pilot who lamented him.