sailingfun

I took a long and relaxing break from the forum. I came back because I feel a very important issue has come up. What I find here is the same usual whining about everything. The CLT layover hotel not being good enough? Give me a break. Its one of the very best areas in CLT and a great layover. Overall our hotels are very good. There are exceptions but we are head and shoulders above SW overall and virtually every other airline. We have a few bad ones but the hotel committee works very hard to fix those issues.

The reason I came back to the forum is that yesterday a issue worth whining about came up that has tremendous implications for the entire Delta Pilot Group.
Flight operations decided to unilaterally abrogate the contract starting 1 January. They are without any agreement with the union eliminating the 9 hour response window for a long call reserve. EVERY PILOT should be very concerned about this issue. I have already called my rep this morning and am planning more calls. He was as astounded by the letter from SD as I was. I recommend every pilot read the letter and make a attempt to contact their CP office and express your feelings on the subject. You should also contact your DALPA reps. I expect and demand a strong response from the union.

Scoop

I agree with you guys. We should stay at better Hotels that require a shorter van ride, that are in the good downtown areas, but if the downtown is not good, the good suburban areas.

Hmmmm - I don't see 12,000 + guys agreeing on any of this.

But seriously, the AIRTRAIN?

Scoop

daldude

I also just read the letter. You will now be on a continuous 2 hour leash to acknowledge all long call assignments. No more sleeping through night. No more being out of contact for more than 2 hours. This will seriously effect the quality of life for reserve pilots. You will not even be able to commute to reserve inside of your 12 hours if your flight is longer than 2 hours. Letter on the way to my rep.

DAL 88 Driver

Who complained about the CLT layover? I sure didn't see it.

sailingfun

BTW CLT is an awesome downtown, why aren't we there? (posted on previous page)

johnso29

What's cute is that they think this plan will work. Sorry, but they signed a contract. They have to honor it. If they need a change, they'll have to give something up for it. It's not like Pt 117 snuck up on them.

TOGA LK

Maybe negotiate a 10-hour rest period following an assignment, upon completion of that period then the longcall leash starts. Leave it to NWA to wring every drop out of 117 and abrogate the PWA. Sorry, meant to write DAL, most understand.

TOGA LK

+ 100. Contract is a contract. Same stance they took when outsourcing to an airline that didn't want to be bought, ultimately helping our competitors build a stronger network while displacing hundreds of pilots across the nation on the eve of unprecedented hiring. Fk em.

Jay5150

That thing's a bit wordy for me, but is this the gist of it?

You are on long call reserve. They could, with 2 hours notice convert you to short call, and then give you a trip with a 2 hour report. Basically giving a long-call guy a trip that signs in 4 hours from the first attempted contact?

If that is right, then there is no longer any such thing as long-call reserve.

E-mail on the way. I don't care what DALPA thinks they can get in return, this is a no-go item.

johnso29

No I don't think I they can do that. What's key here is that a pilot must ACKNOWLEDGE an assignment in order for rest to begin. And 10 hours rest is needed before any assignment, SC or trip. So basically under today's rules we can accept the assignment as little as 3 hours prior to report. IOW, be un-contactable for the first 9 hours of the 12 hour window. But now we would have to accept NLT 10 hours prior to report or the beginning of SC.

That's how I understand it. Which could still be an incorrect interpretation.