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Old 12-04-2013, 09:49 AM
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Does anyone know the etiology of the term "surrender monkey?"
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by groundstop
New rest rules?
The trips are in open time. There are some 4 leg 8.5 hour days on the ATL 320. That's nice...
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:56 AM
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Interesting Tidbit. When researching flights for a buddy pass (i really don't care for them, hence the pass...tic)....During December SEA-LAX shows ALL flights, to include Alaska. They want to return in Jan...Deltanet only show's Delta Metal on the route...what a concept! FWIW heard at council 81 meeting yesterday, and I hope I get this right: 70% of the bookings on our new Westcoast routes are OUR passengers feeding OUR SEA Int'l flights. Only good can come of that!

My opinion, not Council 81:

RE: ALPA PAC and the ME carriers, preclearance and coming cabbotage attempts. We need to start targeting individual congressman who will not support our profession/industry. This SHOULD be a coordinated grassroots movement and backed by the PAC and AFA.

Supporting the ME preclearance facility is a direct attack on us, as such we should respond in kind. If we're going to be out of a job...so should said congressman.

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Old 12-04-2013, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The trips are in open time. There are some 4 leg 8.5 hour days on the ATL 320. That's nice...
Hence why there will be a lot of reroutes. Remember under the new rules it is NOT legal to start legal to finish. So on 4 legs, through ATL probably, 8 minutes over per leg and your last one is free. Or just one good ATL day of messed up ops and you're now a minute over 9 hours before departing on the last leg and you're done. I wonder how many guys are going to screw this up and fly over to be a team player. Old habits are hard to break.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Hence why there will be a lot of reroutes. Remember under the new rules it is NOT legal to start legal to finish. So on 4 legs, through ATL probably, 8 minutes over per leg and your last one is free. Or just one good ATL day of messed up ops and you're now a minute over 9 hours before departing on the last leg and you're done. I wonder how many guys are going to screw this up and fly over to be a team player. Old habits are hard to break.
There are actually a pile of over 8 days on the ATL 320... yikes! The highest I've found was 8:38.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
I wonder how many guys are going to screw this up and fly over to be a team player. Old habits are hard to break.
To get a violation?

I don't think that would be a hard habit to break.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Anybody else getting this pop-up ad on APC?

Surely they know its about 95% guys on here.

The advertisers must think we will get our wives some boob cream for Christmas.



If I bought her this stuff I would have no problems with the Chief pilot. My injuries would be easily verifiable.
The APC name of that stuff:
"Time Off Cream"
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Does anyone know the etiology of the term "surrender monkey?"

I like the term even if I don't use it. I was just wondering if anyone knew how it started.
Is it anything like the "Trunk Monkey"
Trunk Monkey Compilation New Video Plus All Others - YouTube
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:43 AM
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I found an 8:13 and an 8:37 on the 4th day of a 4 day and the 5th day of a 5 day. Why do this on the last days?
And after the shortest rest night as well.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Isn't that now led by the lady that ran NWAs IT dept?
nah, she left in frustration 18 months ago...
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