Bucking Bar

Carl,

The same debate gets boring. I'm going to try to refrain from making any of the same points, again, and yield the floor.

Along those lines, although an early believer in the Surface, it is starting to appear Microsoft itself is going to pull the plug on RT. We've been holding back on the iPad Air, but, that Target deal for the 16GB version at $379 (after $100 promo card) certainly would have been attractive.

For EFB use, has anyone tried the 16GB version, or is the 32 or larger version the way to go? IOS7 has a 64bit memory architecture and that's going to increase the footprint of anything that gets stored. Anyone know if this is an issue now for a Contentlocker/ Personal EFB / Reader iPad?

With my Android EFB 16GB barely does the trick. The size of US Charts and Plates is probably 4 GB. That takes a lot of room.

RunFast

BB,

I've had both 16 and 32 with the iphone and ipad. 16 always filled up. 32 never does for me. EFB, favorite music, a good number of apps, no pictures, and usually two to three movies plus a crap ton of documents/books in good reader.

My $.02

georgetg

56.6GB out of 64GB available on my iPadAir so approx 7.4GB for the OS...

Content locker is approx 260MB
Goodreader with box Dropbox and Sugarsync content 1.2GB

None of the charts should be high MB if they are vector based...
I haven't played with Jepp's Flightdeck Pro but I can't see the charts being raster images...

If all you do is content Locker and a handful of online apps you'll be fine with the 16GB...

Movies, pictures, forget it!

The WIFI only models have no built-in GPS whereas the LTE models do...

There are plenty of external GPS Bluetooth solutions and that would enable optimum placement of the GPS antenna...

Cheers
George

Timbo

Auburn up 7-0!

Where is FTB??

Maybe he's at the game, I'll keep a look out, under the cheerleaders!

Bucking Bar

Thanks to all who replied. George, in particular, I am ASTONISHED the WiFi only models fail to have a GPS. That's quite an omission & a deal killer. Enroute chart use on a EFB without it is a hassle to the point of being useless and I'm just not going to carry another device and have more wires in the cockpit or dead batteries to deal with.

... you just saved me $600. Thanks. Time to work on my hacked up Linux/Andriod tablet some more.

newKnow

They look good.

If we get a FSU vs. Auburn (80knots vs. FTB ) national championship, APC will be the place to watch.

iaflyer

I'll point out that I was never able to get any GPS signal when inside the 757/767 cockpit, heated windows and all that I think. That's both with the iPad with cellular (this GPS) and also standalone GPS unit.

Maybe an Aviation unit might have better luck.

forgot to bid

I'll be ugly all month.

Cohiba

I'm currently one of the test guys with both devices. I've been running Jeppesen FD Pro on both the iPad and Surface. The Surface software is only protype (not even Beta). I'm using an iPad with 32GB. I don't have any movies or games on it. I have 7.3GB available. I'd consider a 64GB if Delta decides not to use the Surface. FD Pro is the biggest hog with 1.9 GB of any of my apps.

Bucking Bar

Thank you for the report. Will the Company give FDPro to Content Locker users? (if so, I may buy one of George's GPS hockey pucks after all)

That FD Pro is actually a lot lighter than AviationMaps for Android. It's at a little under 6GB, but for my GA flying I keep Terminal and Sectional VFR equivalents and every airport's charts for CONUS and the Western Atlantic. The GPS does not work in jets with heated thick acrylic, but it works great in a Bonanza ... for enroute stuff it's terrific to have your aircraft on the chart ... further it makes a good hozgoezit for the wife + kids. The iPad might be World's better, but the GPS function is a deal killer for the little airplane flying.

So do you think Delta might actually give up on the Win RT project? It seems with Microsoft's (ref Julie Larson-Green) announcement that the third OS does not have a future that we might as well give up development of a product that even MS isn't going to support. After all, the big deal about RT was the locked down delivery of software ... if Microsoft unplugs that then RT is nothing more than Palm OS, or Windows Mobile, or any of the other 26 tombstones in the platform graveyard.

Dead OS are expensive. The last article I read for Symbian was $750 million for development and $100 million a year for ongoing software revisions, updates, etc ... . A dead OS with specialized applications like Delta needs may be a really expensive dead end that we're dragging our vendors down until they simply refuse to go.