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Old 11-27-2013, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
It seems to me this is a perfect opportunity for an ALPA or DPA letter explaining the pitfalls of vacation sellback, the differences in IA, GS and GS with conflict. Not to discourage one from the other but to inform and let the pilots make their own decision.
IMO, that may fall into the concerted illegal activity category, I could be wrong.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:58 AM
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Green Slip with conflict pay?

Is it pay for the dropped trip plus pay for the GS trip or only the part of the trip that operates this month? I am asking because I bid reserve for next month. Thanks
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:08 AM
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Anybody have any tips on nonrev out of FRA?
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
It seems to me this is a perfect opportunity for an ALPA or DPA letter explaining the pitfalls of vacation sellback, the differences in IA, GS and GS with conflict. Not to discourage one from the other but to inform and let the pilots make their own decision.
I'd think that would end in a lawsuit.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Anybody have any tips on nonrev out of FRA?
Be advised that military charter crews can show up very short notice, and the crews (12-16 total) will take priority over nonrevs for all upgrades. Pilots are already up front, and the rest are PSUPs. And they often deviate, going home a day before scheduled, or thru ATL instead of NY/DTW.

DUS is a good backup, fairly cheap train ride, but you'd need to travel the night before. You can get a group ticket for up to 5 cheap, just need to ride the regional trains (no ICEs).

If you take the ubahn to FRA, it drops you at the wrong terminal, shuttle buses provided, but you need lots of time.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Anybody have any tips on nonrev out of FRA?
If you are in town today I can give you a PhD in FRA non revving.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Anybody have any tips on nonrev out of FRA?
LH is a great option using eZed fares.
Purchase them on the spot with myIDTravel.
Use the pulldown link on DLNet.

TravelNet > Leisure Travel > Interline Travel > myIDTravel

I flew 5 legs on LH this year with one transatlantic leg.
I was shocked how pain free the experience was and how friedly and accommodating the agents were (was expecting typical German gruffness)

Its not BE but it will get you home when your DAL ride goes away...

Cheers
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
They keep trying to play chess with us, but we don't know they game rules nor do they. Given latest feedback from the kremlin, they know they are behind the power curve on hiring and don't have a solution. There is a quickly limiting flow of new pilots and half of the legacy pilots in the states will be gone in less than 10 years. We'll be cannabalizing each other for pilots. DL has given the job offer to 9E guys without degrees now (breaking the language of the bridge agreement)... I know specific names. So... here we go I guess.




shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…..
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I agree, a little concerted "legal" activity could go a long way in that category.

My point is this whole issue was originated by the company. Basically they are saying "We are way short." So what is to stop individual Pilots from thinking - this is a great opportunity for GSWC - all initiated by the company.

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Old 11-27-2013, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy


shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…..
Vault Letter?

Since the value of the concessions, per pilot, are about what it would cost to send a kid to a public college ... maybe Delta figured, "give us the money and we will give you the equivalent education Rosetta Stone style, like we do the rest of our pilots."



This



Instead of this ?


Who do you believe would be more proud of their accomplishments come time for contract negotiations?

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