Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-18-2013, 10:11 AM
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Is there a way to look at old rotations you've flown in icrew? Every time I try the rotation function it says no data.
11-18-2013, 10:36 AM
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11-18-2013, 10:37 AM
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Herk,
You are right but DAL is giving our passengers what they want. People always complain about lack of service by airlines but mostly purchase based on only one thing............price. At times airlines have tried to charge a little more for a better product and people would not pay for it.
It was easy to be critical of DAL when we were losing billions but a little harder now that we are making billions. I agree it makes it harder for the FAs but that is no different to what is happening to most employees in most industries, including us.
If the pax in the back truly don't like it they will not come back. If we keep that flight full then I assume that they are OK with it.
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You are right but DAL is giving our passengers what they want. People always complain about lack of service by airlines but mostly purchase based on only one thing............price. At times airlines have tried to charge a little more for a better product and people would not pay for it.
It was easy to be critical of DAL when we were losing billions but a little harder now that we are making billions. I agree it makes it harder for the FAs but that is no different to what is happening to most employees in most industries, including us.
If the pax in the back truly don't like it they will not come back. If we keep that flight full then I assume that they are OK with it.
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11-18-2013, 10:42 AM
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11-18-2013, 11:16 AM
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There has been a lot of "discussion" about wether Delta pilots would ever go on strike. I believe that the strike threat has been negated by the recent mergers. Does anyone think that any administration, either democratic or republican, would allow one of the 4 major airlines to go on strike for any extended length of time?
11-18-2013, 11:48 AM
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There has been a lot of "discussion" about wether Delta pilots would ever go on strike. I believe that the strike threat has been negated by the recent mergers. Does anyone think that any administration, either democratic or republican, would allow one of the 4 major airlines to go on strike for any extended length of time?
Ok. Maybe not quite as much. But, a unified pilot group ready to take action? I know it's not something they would want.
Our early agreement last year probably helped them just as much as ALPA said it helped us. It avoided uncertainty and the bad publicity that sometimes comes with contract negotiations.
11-18-2013, 11:50 AM
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11-18-2013, 12:21 PM
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RA works hard to portray Delta as above the typical industry union fray.
He'd lose the high ground if it labor problems hit the news, social media, etc... Then Delta is just another slimy airline.
11-18-2013, 01:49 PM
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I bet the company would fear a near 100% strike vote from the pilot group almost as much as an actual strike.
Ok. Maybe not quite as much. But, a unified pilot group ready to take action? I know it's not something they would want.
Our early agreement last year probably helped them just as much as ALPA said it helped us. It avoided uncertainty and the bad publicity that sometimes comes with contract negotiations.
Ok. Maybe not quite as much. But, a unified pilot group ready to take action? I know it's not something they would want.
Our early agreement last year probably helped them just as much as ALPA said it helped us. It avoided uncertainty and the bad publicity that sometimes comes with contract negotiations.
That's an astute post. Analysts develop mathematical models to justify price targets. When the variable "labor cost" is unknown ....
This is the point I've made to my Reps in the past, "who would want to own the stock of a Company with labor problems?"
Of course one large group of Delta stock holders is Delta pilots.
As to the issue of a "strike vote," that's leverage in the hands of your negotiating committee. There is no reason not to vote to hand them the biggest tool in the box to leverage for you.
IMHO management has what they need and seeks to cancel "constructive engagement." I also hope ALPA is finished with scope sales. These forces appear to be coming together with the likely result that Contract 2015 will be a traditional, perhaps combative, labor negotiation.
My concern is how durable this little upturn we are currently "enjoying" will last. We are well positioned for openers. Management may see a benefit to dragging things out until the logical end of this business cycle.
11-18-2013, 02:03 PM
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My question: Will DALPA have the stones to slug it out? Nothing I've seen indicates that ALPA's current leadership has the backbone to lead us through such an ordeal.
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