Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-16-2013, 03:31 AM
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No, I've got the rocking chair shrink's opinion. Have a number of friends who interviewed with him. They tell me of this part of the interview:
Shrink: What are your thoughts regarding unions?
Pilot: We didn't have them in the military so I'm no expert, but I don't understand the concept of striking.
Shrink: And it's my job to ensure you never do.
As I said earlier, a lot of RD's got past his game...but a significant percentage didn't. I know you don't see it, but many others do. I'm one of them. Maybe we're all wrong.
Why would you say that? I don't think you've done anything but disagree with me since I got here...yet I'm still responding to you cordially.
Carl
Shrink: What are your thoughts regarding unions?
Pilot: We didn't have them in the military so I'm no expert, but I don't understand the concept of striking.
Shrink: And it's my job to ensure you never do.
As I said earlier, a lot of RD's got past his game...but a significant percentage didn't. I know you don't see it, but many others do. I'm one of them. Maybe we're all wrong.
Why would you say that? I don't think you've done anything but disagree with me since I got here...yet I'm still responding to you cordially.
Carl
Dude, seriously, try decaf or non alcoholic beer or wear a tin foil hat... something. You are going completely around the bend.
11-16-2013, 03:44 AM
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Correct, he did not say that but I got the distinct impression that he would like to see it as a requirement for a memrat vote. You know 80%+ would be next to impossible to get.I would love to see 100% of guys vote for a contract. But I'm not for increasing the percentage required for passage. If that was done, it would subvert the will of the majority. The majority is the majority no matter how small it is.
And I think 80+% would be easy. If this last TA had 5, 8, 5, 5, had no reduction in profit sharing and didn't add 70 brand new 76 seat RJ's, it would have passed by 90%.
Aren't you contradicting yourself a little here? In your first paragraph you say 50%+1 is a majority but not unity. In the second paragraph you say a greater majority would show unity. I believe they both show unity. Now, if you wanted to say a greater majority shows more unity than a smaller majority, I will agree with that.
Don't see the contradiction Denny.
Carl
11-16-2013, 03:47 AM
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11-16-2013, 03:50 AM
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Guys, its football time. Give it a rest for the day
11-16-2013, 03:51 AM
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Carl, you kind of hit the nail on the head for me...as a fDAL guy I came in having been anti-union in mindset since birth. But during my first two weeks on property we go over to the DALPA building during indoc and we get the big warm welcome (which was nice), plied with alcohol and food, and oh, by the way, you're still going to pay most of these dues even if you don't sign up. So, I sign up. I'm a union guy now. But isn't my union supposed to be fighting to improve our contract for me and my fellow pilots? Sure doesn't seem like they're working to get our pay to where MOST of us think it should be. Why not more talk about where our pay should be? Why does my union spend more time talking about the threat the company keeps pointing to--foreign carriers? Sure, I get it, they're a threat to pilot jobs in our country. But doesn't it seem convenient that that's the topic we hear so much about from our union and the company as far as what we should be concerned about? And if it's not that then it's new FAA rules. Why don't I hear hardly anything about how we need to get our pay back to where it should be? (I say hardly, because I haven't heard anything, but maybe there's been some mention of this as an objective somewhere). It's as if they don't want to attract any negative attention from the company or show any indication of being on a different page from the company. So, yes, DALPA, you convinced me to join your union, but it's weird--I don't feel like I'm in a union based on how hunky dory the relationship is. The last thing I'm suggesting is that DALPA seek a contentious relationship; I don't pretend to think that would be good for any of us. But the BFF relationship? I guess that's good if you like the status quo.
Carl
11-16-2013, 04:04 AM
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11-16-2013, 04:05 AM
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11-16-2013, 04:06 AM
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11-16-2013, 04:25 AM
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What I really sat wondering about as he retreated to the cockpit after a five minute P.A. including giving all the women his phone number which was supposedly 1-800-HOT-CAPTAIN (you can't make this stuff up), was how on earth has this been allowed to continue for what I imagine is, 30-40 flights a month, for years on end??
Anyway back on topic . . .
11-16-2013, 04:33 AM
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No, I've got the rocking chair shrink's opinion. Have a number of friends who interviewed with him. They tell me of this part of the interview:
Shrink: What are your thoughts regarding unions?
Pilot: We didn't have them in the military so I'm no expert, but I don't understand the concept of striking.
Shrink: And it's my job to ensure you never do.
As I said earlier, a lot of RD's got past his game...but a significant percentage didn't. I know you don't see it, but many others do. I'm one of them. Maybe we're all wrong.
Why would you say that? I don't think you've done anything but disagree with me since I got here...yet I'm still responding to you cordially.
Carl
Shrink: What are your thoughts regarding unions?
Pilot: We didn't have them in the military so I'm no expert, but I don't understand the concept of striking.
Shrink: And it's my job to ensure you never do.
As I said earlier, a lot of RD's got past his game...but a significant percentage didn't. I know you don't see it, but many others do. I'm one of them. Maybe we're all wrong.
Why would you say that? I don't think you've done anything but disagree with me since I got here...yet I'm still responding to you cordially.
Carl
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