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Old 11-12-2013, 07:13 PM
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Perhaps this line of positive engagement with management would help build up our negotiating capital for C2015? Can we hire these guys for some consultant work? Their good if they can sell this.
Whenever I see an article like this I get excited... to read the comment section. Especially a UK comment section.

Best comments:
  • this article is a bit hard to swallow.
  • Maybe that's why my wife is always depressed.
  • Only suckers would believe this story.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Good point.

Changing the subject: What does the company want from us in 117 negotiations?

The status quo is that pay/flight time starts concurrently. However, the reg states that flight time starts when the plane moves under its own power--not the tug's.

Perhaps this is a chance to get "door pay"...with the caveat that our flight time doesn't count for duty purposes until the airplane taxis. Is that "latency" significant enough to merit a contractual change? "Latency...." where have we heard that before?
Rumor is that they want continuos duty overnights. I vote no.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Rumor is that they want continuos duty overnights. I vote no.
Didn't we go over this not that long ago and it was concluded that is not the case?

CDOs are mostly eliminated by FAR 117 anyways...
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by corndog6
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I have only been here 22 years and have never seen a no vote. Since you called the dude a liar, I think you owe it him to back it up. When was the last no vote?
What was the vote that spelled the end of 3.B.6? I don't remember all the specifics, but I believe it was saying that if they didn't want to negotiate payrates for the 777, we didn't care if they got it.... and they came to the table. If that doesn't count, then I am wrong. However, that being said, a yes/no scorecard is meaningless and parochial.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Maybe. When I read about Delta providing service to mid size and small cities from DCA I have a hard time visualizing it being mainline.

Wait - maybe if we join with management and write congress we can increase the pressure to award slots to DAL. Think of how many more mainline flights we can ....................... On second thought, never-mind.

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Yeah, be sure to blow it off, because there is no way that any of those 717s will ever fly those routes.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:59 PM
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Whenever I see an article like this I get excited... to read the comment section. Especially a UK comment section.

Best comments:
  • this article is a bit hard to swallow.
  • Maybe that's why my wife is always depressed.
  • Only suckers would believe this story.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:52 AM
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:37 AM
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

CDOs are mostly eliminated by FAR 117 anyways...
I used to fly lots of CDO's. The only difference now is that the legs are 6 hours instead of 30 minutes and go to places like Bogota. Rest wise, they are identical.

Everyone else, don't forget your coats. It is could out there.



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