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Old 11-12-2013, 06:35 AM
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7th short call? You mean 7 days a month beer free? That should help the blazer fit better!
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
You got a solution? These are new FARs, not a contract amendment, and they apply to the entire industry.

It has a 33 hour layover instead of 9. So you get to spend 33 hours at the airport hotel in CCS for a three day trip that now pays 13.30.
LAX has been flying these for years. 3 day starting w a redeye to Guate or Costa Rica, sit for 24+ and fly back day 3. Guate pays 10:30 and CR just a little more.

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Old 11-12-2013, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
In exchange for a 7th shortcall AND all domestic now go from 12 hrs to 14hrs. This was NOT a win.
What?!?! Where does it say domestic short calls increase to 14 hours?
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
What?!?! Where does it say domestic short calls increase to 14 hours?
I think NB stay at 12 hrs. WB goes to 14 hrs. I hope I'm right.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
What?!?! Where does it say domestic short calls increase to 14 hours?
That was the first I'd heard of that. I thought domestic SC stayed at 12 hours.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
There's a link on the DeltaNet with a VP of Asia discussing the Tokyo hub, more of a promotional thing... but it certainly sounds as if Delta is wanting to make a go of the whole operation over there. Just another dot...
So maybe all of the rumors of NRT going away in leui of SEA are false. I thought they wouldn't pull out completely, those 5th freedom rights aren't something you can just apply for. I haven't heard any update on getting back to HND though, I know RA mentioned trying to do that...
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:24 AM
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Question for 717 guys & gals. How much notice did you have before returning for recency training & OE.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:48 AM
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Sorry my bad. Domestic stays at 12.
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Sorry my bad. Domestic stays at 12.
Reserves are also only subject to a 7th short call in months where the reserve guarantee is at or above 75 hours.

Still don't know why the company wanted this provision, nor why we gave it, but it is not as onerous as some people think, and will probably occur as frequently as "every reserve flying to 99 hours."
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr

it is not as onerous as some people think, and will probably occur as frequently as "every reserve flying to 99 hours."
Riiiigght. Just like ALV + 15 was only going to affect international categories.
Hint: ALV + 15 was a giveaway, plain and simple, and so was granting 7 short calls shortly after negotiating for 6 in the merger! ALV + 15 sucks, even for reserves who are flying less than 99 hours.

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