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Old 11-06-2013, 05:23 AM
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Another critical question, this for the drummers.

Neil Peart said Tom Sawyer was the hardest song for him to play. I've listened to Tom Sawyer a jillion times and I never hear the typical Neil P. jewels that are in most of Rush's music. As a non-drummer, the jewels seem the most complex to me. For example, the Beatles drummer Ringo Starr is said to be extremely difficult to copy correctly because he had the uncanny ability to put just the right amount of "lag" in his drumming. I don't hear lag in Tom Sawyer, but in "Time stands still," "New world man," "Limelight" (packed full of NP jewels) there is perfect lag throughout. So, why would he say Tom Sawyer was so difficult.
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Who needs a drummer? You can get four songs a gallon & haul your equipment to the gig.



Not an example of great drumming, but certainly an illustration of the difference a guy who can swing a stick can make ....



Advance to about 50 seconds in. Back story. Lenny Kravitz is eating dinner when he hears a local youth choir playing "Fly Away." He decides to go have some fun. It's only worth about a 15 second listen, but fun to hear how the whole group tightens up with a drummer that can keep a beat.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Another critical question, this for the drummers.

Neil Peart said Tom Sawyer was the hardest song for him to play. I've listened to Tom Sawyer a jillion times and I never hear the typical Neil P. jewels that are in most of Rush's music. As a non-drummer, the jewels seem the most complex to me. For example, the Beatles drummer Ringo Starr is said to be extremely difficult to copy correctly because he had the uncanny ability to put just the right amount of "lag" in his drumming. I don't hear lag in Tom Sawyer, but in "Time stands still," "New world man," "Limelight" (packed full of NP jewels) there is perfect lag throughout. So, why would he say Tom Sawyer was so difficult.

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Ringo tends to lay slightly behind whereas Peart plays right on top of the beat. Ringo's feel is whats hard to copy. Peart is a far more technical drummer. For example: Tom Sawyer is mostly 16th notes with some off time beats that are in 7/8 vs the more common 4/4 time. Add in some cymbals crashes in the middle of 32nd note rolls and you've got a song that can be difficult to play. However with Ringo, while anyone can play it correctly it just doesn't feel right unless you can lay behind the beat to get that groove that Ringo had.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:36 AM
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And arguably the best that's ever played. (My hero when I was learning to play back in the '70's.)

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And for those less senior than -88 Driver:

"Red Air" Session Video - YouTube
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Now a serious post about drummers ... my vote for best artist



Gentlemen, may I present

Mr. Carter Beauford


of the Dave Matthews band

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rT_mqPKVvA

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Now a serious post about drummers ... my vote for best artist



Mr. Carter Beauford
of the Dave Matthews band

ACL65, this is your forte. Who won?
Ah Beauford. Great drummer but as to "the best:" NFW
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The guy I studied with a few years ago isn't bad either...

Sonny Emory - Linear Concepts & Flamercises (FULL DRUM LESSON) - YouTube
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
And arguably the best that's ever played. (My hero when I was learning to play back in the '70's.)

Sorry to do this to you ... but I knew I recognized that song ...




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