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11-03-2013, 04:27 PM
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11-03-2013, 04:34 PM
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The Europeans didn't think of ugly airplanes first. Douglas was already there.
11-04-2013, 04:41 AM
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Hypothetical...
7 days on reserve. Get a 4 day trip followed by a 11 hour rest period. Once the trip is over, if they don't already have a trip or short call assigned, when is the soonest they can assign something? Also, what if any obligation is there to answer the phone during the rest period? Trying to figure out if they can extend that rest to 24 hours while I'm in the rest period to make me legal for another 3 day assignment or do they have to wait until the rest period is over to assign more rest (thus breaking the rest)
I'm sure that's ridiculously confusing.
7 days on reserve. Get a 4 day trip followed by a 11 hour rest period. Once the trip is over, if they don't already have a trip or short call assigned, when is the soonest they can assign something? Also, what if any obligation is there to answer the phone during the rest period? Trying to figure out if they can extend that rest to 24 hours while I'm in the rest period to make me legal for another 3 day assignment or do they have to wait until the rest period is over to assign more rest (thus breaking the rest)
I'm sure that's ridiculously confusing.
11-04-2013, 04:44 AM
seeing the large hubs...
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7 days on reserve. Get a 4 day trip followed by a 11 hour rest period. Once the trip is over, if they don't already have a trip or short call assigned, when is the soonest they can assign something? Also, what if any obligation is there to answer the phone during the rest period? Trying to figure out if they can extend that rest to 24 hours while I'm in the rest period to make me legal for another 3 day assignment or do they have to wait until the rest period is over to assign more rest (thus breaking the rest)
I'm sure that's ridiculously confusing.
I'm sure that's ridiculously confusing.
If after your 4 day trip ends, you check your schedule as required and there is no trip or SC, you immediately go on Long call. So you could then be leaving the airport, they could call with a trip 12 or more hours out, or a SC assignment that starts within 10 hours (plus 2 hour show, 12 hours)
There is no obligation to answer the phone during your 12 hour long call, but you have to acknowledge any trip/SC assignment prior to 3 hours to show. If they put you on a 24 hour break (1 in 7) you have an obligation to check your schedule 9 hours prior to that 1/7 ending. They do have to assign the additional rest after a trip (to make it a 1/7) prior to starting the 1/7 rest.
What I see scheduling doing is, while you're on the last day of that 4 day, they'll add additional rest at the end of your trip to make it a 1/7 if they think they'll need you. So when you do your post flight schedule check, you'll see it (and have to acknowledge it) then.
All this is going to change Jan 2014 when we go to the 117 rules, I'm just not exactly sure yet.
11-04-2013, 04:48 AM
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The problem might be that we have Boeing expectations for a Douglas product. After a while you just apply the high speed rejected takeoff criteria; fire, failure, fear ... outside of that it will probably make it from Atlanta to Jackson Mississippi and back.
"It flew in here, it will probably fly out ... gimme another unfiltered Camel"
Donal Willis Douglas, Dr.
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11-04-2013, 04:50 AM
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Typical FBO ramper having fun with his girlfriend in your company's airplane.
11-04-2013, 04:53 AM
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More of Boeing's great and recent achievements...
11-04-2013, 04:57 AM
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I'll give it a shot.
If after your 4 day trip ends, you check your schedule as required and there is no trip or SC, you immediately go on Long call. So you could then be leaving the airport, they could call with a trip 12 or more hours out, or a SC assignment that starts within 10 hours (plus 2 hour show, 12 hours)
There is no obligation to answer the phone during your 12 hour long call, but you have to acknowledge any trip/SC assignment prior to 3 hours to show. If they put you on a 24 hour break (1 in 7) you have an obligation to check your schedule 9 hours prior to that 1/7 ending. They do have to assign the additional rest after a trip (to make it a 1/7) prior to starting the 1/7 rest.
What I see scheduling doing is, while you're on the last day of that 4 day, they'll add additional rest at the end of your trip to make it a 1/7 if they think they'll need you. So when you do your post flight schedule check, you'll see it (and have to acknowledge it) then.
All this is going to change Jan 2014 when we go to the 117 rules, I'm just not exactly sure yet.
If after your 4 day trip ends, you check your schedule as required and there is no trip or SC, you immediately go on Long call. So you could then be leaving the airport, they could call with a trip 12 or more hours out, or a SC assignment that starts within 10 hours (plus 2 hour show, 12 hours)
There is no obligation to answer the phone during your 12 hour long call, but you have to acknowledge any trip/SC assignment prior to 3 hours to show. If they put you on a 24 hour break (1 in 7) you have an obligation to check your schedule 9 hours prior to that 1/7 ending. They do have to assign the additional rest after a trip (to make it a 1/7) prior to starting the 1/7 rest.
What I see scheduling doing is, while you're on the last day of that 4 day, they'll add additional rest at the end of your trip to make it a 1/7 if they think they'll need you. So when you do your post flight schedule check, you'll see it (and have to acknowledge it) then.
All this is going to change Jan 2014 when we go to the 117 rules, I'm just not exactly sure yet.
11-04-2013, 04:58 AM
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DAL over $27 in premarket trading today... up $.40. Nothing unusual in the news today either....
11-04-2013, 05:05 AM
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