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11-02-2013, 05:19 PM

#142211

Bucking Bar

Can't abide NAI

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Wilbur Wright;1511884]So why do you prefer APC? Is it the fact posters are anonymous?

Sort of. I am big on a "marketplace of ideas" concept. I care little about the politics, or who is right. I am interested most in results and success.

Anonymity should make it a little easier to admit mistakes. I am quick to admit when someone else has a better idea.

The ALPA Board, IMHO, could be hostile and some people appeared to take things personally. Here it seems we have a bit more decorum.

The metaphor Steve Jobs used to use was that of a rock polisher. You put in rough stones and they would grind against each other, make noise, even get hot. But the process of working together created a smooth, beautiful, product. At our best, that is how we solve our problems. A little noise is OK.

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11-02-2013, 05:32 PM

#142212

tsquare

No longer cares

Joined APC: Mar 2008

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Football sucks.

11-02-2013, 05:35 PM

#142213

Bucking Bar

Can't abide NAI

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Originally Posted by Flamer

Told by CP type that we have two 717. If one is broke, than I guess we are running one with no spares.

I thought that's why we had ordered a lot of 737's. As reliable spares for the unreliable .....

11-02-2013, 05:39 PM

#142214

Hillbilly

Gets Weekends Off

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Originally Posted by NWflyer

The first recall class starts soon, doesn't it? Anybody here know yet what the breakdown will be for jets and bases? Probably Atl and dtw 717 and JFK Md-80's, but I'm curious what the numbers will be.

Also, when is the next AE? I'd imagine that would highlight where the first few classes will be going.

The first group starts on Monday. Options offered to recall pilots in seniority order were:

73N B - DTW(25), LAX(5) and NYC(20)
320 B - DTW(7), NYC(8) and SLC(5)
M88 B - ATL(18), CVG(1), MSP(9) and NYC(2)
717 B - ATL(39) and DTW(37)

The next AE will likely occur at the end of November or early December.

11-02-2013, 05:57 PM

#142215

iaflyer

seeing the large hubs...

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Originally Posted by gloopy

No freeze thought, right? As things open up I bet a lot of them jump within the first year which should help the training bubble sitch.

Well maybe, but what are they going to jump to?

Crew resources has already said that they aren't backfilling the 7ER as people bid off that. Some A330s are in for lie-flat mods this winter, so I don't see many openings on that plane either. Possibly some large airplane retirements (B777, B747 and B764) could put a few openings in there. But really - all the AEs in the foreseeable will be for narrow bodies. There will be Captain openings too, but most of the recalls are too junior to hold a Captain position.

11-02-2013, 06:00 PM

#142216

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so who was in Operation Able Art?

11-02-2013, 06:06 PM

#142217

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Originally Posted by iaflyer

Well maybe, but what are they going to jump to?

Crew resources has already said that they aren't backfilling the 7ER as people bid off that. The A330s are in for lie-flat mods this winter, so I don't see many openings on that plane either. Possibly some large airplane retirements (B777, B747 and B764) could put a few openings in there. But really - all the AEs in the foreseeable will be for narrow bodies. There will be Captain openings too, but most of the recalls are too junior to hold a Captain position.

they seem to say no backfills then turn around and backfill. i really dont believe much of what is said by CR. i used too, but not lately. now if CR is bring honest then I agree with you.

watch for ER backfills and for recalls that didnt already get the 73 or 320 to head that way. its just my guess but i doubt many held out this long in the hopes of returning to the 88.