Carl Spackler

DPA hasn't promised a single thing that would harm this pilot group. You members of the Secret Police know that, but I know why you're here. You're here to justify the coming actions of complete communications control. You're biggest problem is not understanding that technology will prevent you from your goal. Even if your committee spends another $70,000 plus dues dollars.

We'll see. So far, not off to a very good start. Why all the complaints about the site so far? Did ALPA hire Obama to build the website or something?

BS. Those cases were ultimately supported by a preponderance of the evidence that there was a concerted effort by elected union officials. As a result of these incidents, union officials are now careful to counter any talk of illegal activity. Now only individual pilots are responsible for their own actions. At DPA, it would be no different.

I'm sure you and ALPA are very glad open and free communication is gone in one form. I'm also sure that DALPA's secret police will do everything it possibly can to stifle communication here at APC.

Carl

Dirtdiver

Another benefit I've used it for is to avoid a really bad trip. Say there's a real dog sitting in the pot that no one will ever WS and you figure to be #1 for on your first on call day...Might be worth flying that easy 2 day, losing an X day.

But if you're wondering if you get premium pay or the X day back, no.

Bucking Bar

You got it. If you green slip at the end of the month and you do not have reserve days that they can provide you the pay back days, then they go into a bank you can draw from in future months to drop something. If they don't get used in subsequent months they roll into your vacation allotment.

Of course, if you are senior and bid reserve NOT to fly, it can be hard to find anything to green slip. It has been my observation the schedulers are VERY tactical with short call assignments and since the same person does both the short call, trip modifications (for out of base stuff staffed out of your base) and assignment of those trips, it just works out that those who want to fly don't, and those who don't, do.

Best bet, bid weekends off and try to Greenslip Friday through Sunday.

The only relief where the contract kind of works correctly is when a position is too busy for the schedulers to work the system. The MD88 typically just needs pilots and schedulers (in my experience) didn't play games as much as they do elsewhere.

Rolling Thunder is the practice of bidding OFF days early in the month and green slipping. As your PAY BACK days get pushed ahead of you, you try to get another green slip over your PB days. With a bow wave of PB days ahead of you, everything you fly then goes over guarantee and you still get your off days, or bank them for future use.

Carl Spackler

If you had actually been a part of any of them, you'd know there was indeed some dissention and lots of discussion. Nobody drinking from anybody's cup. That's not how we roll.

Your credibility will be enhanced if you discuss things you actually know something about.

Carl

Carl Spackler

Look up "Summary Judgment" in a legal dictionary. While you're at it, study the topic of sanctioning a lawyer for bringing a nuisance lawsuit.

Carl

Dirtdiver

You get the X day back and single pay over guarantee.

But they won't give you the GS until they've run out of all other options, starting with WS/out of base WS/reserve coverage/DH in a res from another base, and let's not forget busting the trip into pieces they can cover.

Wilbur Wright

Green slip is different. You're correct that a GS on X days pays above the cap and you get the day off back.

flying_wendell

Ok, thanks. Sadly this is an education I should've gotten before I rashly put in a yellow slip on an x-day thinking that yellow was the reserve 'green'. Predictably I was assigned a trip almost instantaneously and will now be contributing to the company's profitability (and y'all s profit sharing) through my stupidity. Oh well, at least it was only a day trip.

Bucking Bar

If it makes you feel better, I yellow slipped a trip as a new hire. First leg the MD80 breaks and strands us. Company asked me to stay there to operate the thing back to ATL (mechanic says he figures it is a two day fix, no pay mind you, it was a yellow slip). Jumpseated back home offline. Lesson learned.

tsquare

So you know the answer as to how many people are required to speak of a job action in order for that to be considered "concerted". OK.. enlighten us all about that. I know it is probably not more than 49, for sure, and I will be willing to wager that it is a lot less. I am pretty sure that the company's lawyers are not too worried about being sanctioned for a frivolous or nuisance lawsuit, because they have a precedent for this exact type of thing. You get a couple of clowns shooting off their mouths on your webboard, and that would be all it would take. I'm not worried because I am not going to be a member anyway, so I wouldn't be subject to your assessments to pay for that. And I guess I should thank you in advance for lowering my dues.