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I've come to the conclusion that ANY negotiation that involve a scope element will be viewed as a cave in on scope. No matter whether it is or not, it will be viewed that way.

Denny

You might be right. But then again, that's how it should be. At least initially. There should be a built in skepticism and a zealous/protective bias towards all things scope. If its truly an improvement, let the comprehensive case be made and we will decide, based on our guarded perspective.

What we can't have are secret LOA's by one person that provide generous rebalancing relief to the company. I don't think there is any chance that would have passed MEMRAT. And good or bad we don't need any more scope deals at any level that is pushed through without a comprehensive vetting by the entire group. No more "we have to pass it to see what's in it, time limited urgent opportunity" stuff.

10-12-2013, 09:38 AM

#141402

scambo1

The Brown Dot +1

Joined APC: Jun 2009

Position: 777B

Posts: 7,775

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

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I've come to the conclusion that ANY negotiation that involve a scope element will be viewed as a cave in on scope. No matter whether it is or not, it will be viewed that way.

Denny

I think that is a valid conclusion.

10-12-2013, 09:45 AM

#141403

Roadkill

meh

Joined APC: Oct 2010

Posts: 828

I also got the ALPA email they are meeting to recall the MEC chairman. What's up with that?

10-12-2013, 10:04 AM

#141404

Scoop

Moderator

Joined APC: Dec 2007

Position: DAL 330

Posts: 6,990

DALPA Forum

Is the DALPA forum still "read-only" or is the new site up and running?

Scoop

10-12-2013, 10:25 AM

#141405

tsquare

No longer cares

Joined APC: Mar 2008

Position: 767er Captain

Posts: 12,109

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

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I've come to the conclusion that ANY negotiation that involve a scope element will be viewed as a cave in on scope. No matter whether it is or not, it will be viewed that way.

Denny

And that view is a cornerstone of the "logic" behind the alternate representation rhetoric. Of course whether or not it actually WAS a "cave" is irrelevant as far as they are concerned.

ftb be happy today. Mizzou beatin the crap out of Gawgia. Tsquare however very very worried because the Big Orange haven't played Mizzou yet....

edit: it ain't over yet.... maybe ftb ain't gonna be happy

Last edited by tsquare; 10-12-2013 at 11:07 AM.

10-12-2013, 10:41 AM

#141406

Superpilot92

Underboob King

Joined APC: May 2005

Position: Guppy Commander

Posts: 4,412

Hook'em \m/

10-12-2013, 10:43 AM

#141407

TANSTAAFL

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Dec 2009

Position: Still in one

Posts: 784

Quote:

Originally Posted by siemprerojo

Just got an email from council 81 about a meeting in ATL to recall the MEC chairman? Any info or did someone's kid get a hold of a password?

Asked one of my Reps about this. Apparently there is a special MEC meeting next Thursday, agenda not yet published. If there was a 81 email to that effect I would imagine someone here could copy and paste that bit. Is the 81 Chairman leading a recall attempt of the MEC Chairman?

10-12-2013, 12:36 PM

#141408

Bucking Bar

Can't abide NAI

Joined APC: Jun 2007

Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler

Posts: 12,037

Phone not working.

Last edited by Bucking Bar; 10-12-2013 at 12:52 PM.

10-12-2013, 12:38 PM

#141409

Timbo

Runs with scissors

Joined APC: Dec 2009

Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .

Posts: 7,730

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoop

Is the DALPA forum still "read-only" or is the new site up and running?

Scoop

As of yesterday it was still read only. I spoke with one of the ATL Capt. reps and he said it should/could be up an running in about another week.

He said originally they were going to try to keep it up and running while they loaded the new software, but it got to be too much, so now it's read only until they have it all done.

He said on Oct. 2-3 they said it would take about 2 weeks...making it about Oct. 16-17 to be finished.