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10-07-2013, 09:20 AM
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Try this hotel. It's in one of the best areas, and great value, too. Just stayed there a few months ago. Hotel Agora Paris | Official Website | 3 stars Hotel Also, try travago.com to book the cheapest rate – wherever you decide to stay.
Gunship, don't discount Normandy as a full day side trip.
10-07-2013, 09:30 AM
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Suggestions and tips being sought.
I'm strongly considering taking the family of four to Paris the third week of March. I'll probably use the One Great Team passes for one of the kids and myself so I want to make a decision sooner rather than later to get the seats locked in. With that said I'm hoping some can help me out with some questions.
1. For non-rev purposes, is going to Amsterdam (then taking the train to Paris a couple days later) a better option for non-reving than Paris? We have to go through Atlanta and the wife and one child will be non-reving. Which has the better chance of getting 1st class-CDG or AMS? (Considering AMS to break up the 7-day trip a bit).
2. Any suggestions on where to stay or who to go through for lodging? I'm not looking to go on a shoe string budget, but I don't want to bust the bank either. Hoping to get something under $200/night that will sleep four. Possible? Searching VRBO.com right now, but I've never used them.
I'd consider other destinations, but the teenagers haven't been to Europe (or anywhere outside the 48 besides HI and the Caribbean) and I think Paris is a good place to start. South America has great destinations I've seen discussed here, but Europe just seems right for us at this point (I'm the less adventurous travel planner). That being said, other destinations I've considered are Barcelona, Rome, or London.
I'm strongly considering taking the family of four to Paris the third week of March. I'll probably use the One Great Team passes for one of the kids and myself so I want to make a decision sooner rather than later to get the seats locked in. With that said I'm hoping some can help me out with some questions.
1. For non-rev purposes, is going to Amsterdam (then taking the train to Paris a couple days later) a better option for non-reving than Paris? We have to go through Atlanta and the wife and one child will be non-reving. Which has the better chance of getting 1st class-CDG or AMS? (Considering AMS to break up the 7-day trip a bit).
2. Any suggestions on where to stay or who to go through for lodging? I'm not looking to go on a shoe string budget, but I don't want to bust the bank either. Hoping to get something under $200/night that will sleep four. Possible? Searching VRBO.com right now, but I've never used them.
I'd consider other destinations, but the teenagers haven't been to Europe (or anywhere outside the 48 besides HI and the Caribbean) and I think Paris is a good place to start. South America has great destinations I've seen discussed here, but Europe just seems right for us at this point (I'm the less adventurous travel planner). That being said, other destinations I've considered are Barcelona, Rome, or London.
10-07-2013, 09:35 AM
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Suggestions and tips being sought.
I'm strongly considering taking the family of four to Paris the third week of March. I'll probably use the One Great Team passes for one of the kids and myself so I want to make a decision sooner rather than later to get the seats locked in. With that said I'm hoping some can help me out with some questions.
1. For non-rev purposes, is going to Amsterdam (then taking the train to Paris a couple days later) a better option for non-reving than Paris? We have to go through Atlanta and the wife and one child will be non-reving. Which has the better chance of getting 1st class-CDG or AMS? (Considering AMS to break up the 7-day trip a bit).
2. Any suggestions on where to stay or who to go through for lodging? I'm not looking to go on a shoe string budget, but I don't want to bust the bank either. Hoping to get something under $200/night that will sleep four. Possible? Searching VRBO.com right now, but I've never used them.
I'd consider other destinations, but the teenagers haven't been to Europe (or anywhere outside the 48 besides HI and the Caribbean) and I think Paris is a good place to start. South America has great destinations I've seen discussed here, but Europe just seems right for us at this point (I'm the less adventurous travel planner). That being said, other destinations I've considered are Barcelona, Rome, or London.
I'm strongly considering taking the family of four to Paris the third week of March. I'll probably use the One Great Team passes for one of the kids and myself so I want to make a decision sooner rather than later to get the seats locked in. With that said I'm hoping some can help me out with some questions.
1. For non-rev purposes, is going to Amsterdam (then taking the train to Paris a couple days later) a better option for non-reving than Paris? We have to go through Atlanta and the wife and one child will be non-reving. Which has the better chance of getting 1st class-CDG or AMS? (Considering AMS to break up the 7-day trip a bit).
2. Any suggestions on where to stay or who to go through for lodging? I'm not looking to go on a shoe string budget, but I don't want to bust the bank either. Hoping to get something under $200/night that will sleep four. Possible? Searching VRBO.com right now, but I've never used them.
I'd consider other destinations, but the teenagers haven't been to Europe (or anywhere outside the 48 besides HI and the Caribbean) and I think Paris is a good place to start. South America has great destinations I've seen discussed here, but Europe just seems right for us at this point (I'm the less adventurous travel planner). That being said, other destinations I've considered are Barcelona, Rome, or London.
Depending on how long you are going for, consider getting the Eurail train passes (while you're still in the US) and spending 3 or 4 days in Paris and another city. Rome is a great place to go also.
Denny
10-07-2013, 09:41 AM
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Don't forget the race to the bottom at outsourced vendors never stops. Now fast forward five years and yes you will have fewer total RJ seat miles flying around but of course the RJs that are still operating will be larger on average. The pay rates? Well they will continue to decrease as long as the 'cheapest wins' model remains in effect. This matters because the 717 guys will have a hard time justifying 180/115 pay rates in future contracts when hundreds of 76 seaters are operated at $70/30.
The large RJ expansion will only serve to put further downward pressure on mainline wages.
The large RJ expansion will only serve to put further downward pressure on mainline wages.
10-07-2013, 10:22 AM
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Suggestions and tips being sought.
I'm strongly considering taking the family of four to Paris the third week of March. I'll probably use the One Great Team passes for one of the kids and myself so I want to make a decision sooner rather than later to get the seats locked in. With that said I'm hoping some can help me out with some questions.
1. For non-rev purposes, is going to Amsterdam (then taking the train to Paris a couple days later) a better option for non-reving than Paris? We have to go through Atlanta and the wife and one child will be non-reving. Which has the better chance of getting 1st class-CDG or AMS? (Considering AMS to break up the 7-day trip a bit).
2. Any suggestions on where to stay or who to go through for lodging? I'm not looking to go on a shoe string budget, but I don't want to bust the bank either. Hoping to get something under $200/night that will sleep four. Possible? Searching VRBO.com right now, but I've never used them.
I'd consider other destinations, but the teenagers haven't been to Europe (or anywhere outside the 48 besides HI and the Caribbean) and I think Paris is a good place to start. South America has great destinations I've seen discussed here, but Europe just seems right for us at this point (I'm the less adventurous travel planner). That being said, other destinations I've considered are Barcelona, Rome, or London.
I'm strongly considering taking the family of four to Paris the third week of March. I'll probably use the One Great Team passes for one of the kids and myself so I want to make a decision sooner rather than later to get the seats locked in. With that said I'm hoping some can help me out with some questions.
1. For non-rev purposes, is going to Amsterdam (then taking the train to Paris a couple days later) a better option for non-reving than Paris? We have to go through Atlanta and the wife and one child will be non-reving. Which has the better chance of getting 1st class-CDG or AMS? (Considering AMS to break up the 7-day trip a bit).
2. Any suggestions on where to stay or who to go through for lodging? I'm not looking to go on a shoe string budget, but I don't want to bust the bank either. Hoping to get something under $200/night that will sleep four. Possible? Searching VRBO.com right now, but I've never used them.
I'd consider other destinations, but the teenagers haven't been to Europe (or anywhere outside the 48 besides HI and the Caribbean) and I think Paris is a good place to start. South America has great destinations I've seen discussed here, but Europe just seems right for us at this point (I'm the less adventurous travel planner). That being said, other destinations I've considered are Barcelona, Rome, or London.
There's a really cool area a few blocks from one of our layover hotels (Marriott Rive Gauche) called Butte Aux Callais. Kind of a mini Latin Quarter without the tourists. Two hotels on the edge of it, the Timhotel (budget) and Hotel St Charles (nicer).
Sign up for those OGT passes way in advance. They only release a few seats per flight.
10-07-2013, 11:14 AM
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We've had pretty good luck with VBRO. The key for us has been to email with the owner a few times to a) see if they're ok to work with, and b) build rapport to schmooze a better rate. They can also send you more pics, etc.
Are you still in the Reserve/Guard? Retired? Working thru Mildenhall/Lakenheath, etc. may open up some different options.
Are you still in the Reserve/Guard? Retired? Working thru Mildenhall/Lakenheath, etc. may open up some different options.
Try this hotel. It's in one of the best areas, and great value, too. Just stayed there a few months ago. Hotel Agora Paris | Official Website | 3 stars Hotel Also, try travago.com to book the cheapest rate – wherever you decide to stay.
The reward travel requires you to return out of the same city that you flew into so just keep that in mind if you are not flying direct to Paris. I took my family of four to Paris just this past March. The loads were fine until the week prior and they started filling up. We actually had trouble getting back so be prepared to get split up if you are using a reward pass. Also, if the flight out of Paris is oversold in coach, they will upgrade revenue coach passengers to business class. We had 21 open seats in business class and coach was oversold by 21. They upgraded everyone and not a single nonrev got on the flight.
If you go to the Delta Perks website, we also get deals at both the NH and ACCOR hotel chains. They might be worth a look to compare.
Depending on how long you are going for, consider getting the Eurail train passes (while you're still in the US) and spending 3 or 4 days in Paris and another city. Rome is a great place to go also.
Denny
Depending on how long you are going for, consider getting the Eurail train passes (while you're still in the US) and spending 3 or 4 days in Paris and another city. Rome is a great place to go also.
Denny
I wish my wife was the travel planner in the family.
10-07-2013, 11:31 AM
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Take a look at CVG and ORD to Paris. Loads get spotty in the off season. I flew ORD-CDG last winter several times, never full, once had only 35 total on an ER!
There's a really cool area a few blocks from one of our layover hotels (Marriott Rive Gauche) called Butte Aux Callais. Kind of a mini Latin Quarter without the tourists. Two hotels on the edge of it, the Timhotel (budget) and Hotel St Charles (nicer).
Sign up for those OGT passes way in advance. They only release a few seats per flight.
There's a really cool area a few blocks from one of our layover hotels (Marriott Rive Gauche) called Butte Aux Callais. Kind of a mini Latin Quarter without the tourists. Two hotels on the edge of it, the Timhotel (budget) and Hotel St Charles (nicer).
Sign up for those OGT passes way in advance. They only release a few seats per flight.
CVG-CDG shows the following:
Does that mean it costs $173.50 round trip for each non-rev pax? Just wondering what the $217 "Base Amount" is.
10-07-2013, 12:00 PM
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10-07-2013, 12:05 PM
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10-07-2013, 12:17 PM
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I hadn't even thought of CVG. Great to have in the hip pocket. BTW, can someone clue me into what the code is when it comes to taxes for non-rev international travel?
CVG-CDG shows the following:
Does that mean it costs $173.50 round trip for each non-rev pax? Just wondering what the $217 "Base Amount" is.
CVG-CDG shows the following:
Does that mean it costs $173.50 round trip for each non-rev pax? Just wondering what the $217 "Base Amount" is.
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