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Old 09-28-2013, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
I contribute to PAC. But dont you see RA is doing the same thing with Virg Atl, AeroMex, Gol, Maybe Sky MArk etc etc etc. All of our equity injections.

I think Etihad is taking a look at our playbook. They like our profits so they are going to mimic us on this new way to make money.

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Well, that and the purchase of hundreds of wide bodies.
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Burn Notice
T, I understand your position. I was there myself. But, unfortunatly, a PAC is a way of life in DC now. Many foreign interests are using that to our detriment. They have deeeeep pockets. $20/ month is 4 layover beers a month. That's all. I am no rah-rah type but this I stand on. All I ask is reconsider.
PS-Show us Mizzu cheerleaders in few weeks so we can compare and contrast!

I AM going to the Mizzou game...

I despise DC politicians.. ALL of them. I would rather eat a turd than give them any money. I cannot in good conscience do anything that would help that asswipe Chuck Shumer. He is singlehandedly bound and determined to destroy our way of life.
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
T, I can respect your choice but wish you'd reconsider... Can you bring yourself to contribute your time as a District Advocate since you cannot bring youself to contribute via the PAC?

ALPA On The Issues use the link on the top right

I will investigate being an advocate.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I AM going to the Mizzou game...

I despise DC politicians.. ALL of them. I would rather eat a turd than give them any money. I cannot in good conscience do anything that would help that asswipe Chuck Shumer. He is singlehandedly bound and determined to destroy our way of life.
If I may be so bold, my opinion is that your lack of action plays right into his agenda.

Anyway, I get your moral compass. I left active duty for the same moral compass reason, Considered renouncing my citizenship, tried to figure out which foreign country to live in, etc.

You've heard the quote "money is the root of all evil." Well, it's a misquote. The real quote is "the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." To me, what this means in this instance is that if you look into the PAC and you find their actions worthy, they are doing "good." Unlove some of your money and support the good things they do...So they can undo or subvert the "evil" done by those who love money.

They are after all working on your and my behalf.

End Sunday school class.

PS: we expect cheerleader pics.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sobchak
FO training next week on 800. Can you send me a copy to pass along? TIA
Hey, I would love to pass along a copy. However, nobody gave me the info either. If I get any info on the 737 I'll send it your way.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:14 AM
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Sixt gives a good Delta discount (book online), in case that was never answered.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyZ
Sixt gives a good Delta discount (book online), in case that was never answered.
Thanks, I thought we were hooked up with one of the rental companies, but I went to Expedia and got a car for 13 bucks a day. Pretty tough to beat that.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
If I may be so bold, my opinion is that your lack of action plays right into his agenda.

Anyway, I get your moral compass. I left active duty for the same moral compass reason, Considered renouncing my citizenship, tried to figure out which foreign country to live in, etc.

You've heard the quote "money is the root of all evil." Well, it's a misquote. The real quote is "the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." To me, what this means in this instance is that if you look into the PAC and you find their actions worthy, they are doing "good." Unlove some of your money and support the good things they do...So they can undo or subvert the "evil" done by those who love money.

They are after all working on your and my behalf.

End Sunday school class.

PS: we expect cheerleader pics.
I thought time was money?
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You and I are the positive/negative on this issue. I would rather keep ALPA with all it's flaws because the alternative group (and it's leader) is repugnant, and although ALPA-PAC is the only way to -as you say- bribe (and that is the CORRECT word) public officials. We need that but I cannot bring myself to participate, and I send a very heartfelt thank you to all those that do.
Think of the PAC in terms of marriage. If men could find someone to regularly sleep with, cook meals and clean up after us would anyone ever propose? Married guys DO pay for sex.....
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I despise DC politicians.. ALL of them. I would rather eat a turd than give them any money. I cannot in good conscience do anything that would help that asswipe Chuck Shumer. He is singlehandedly bound and determined to destroy our way of life.
T, I'm right there with you. It took me years to get on board with the PAC.

But I finally realized what Scambo, Scoop and others are saying. We're playing in a rigged game. The only way to compete and hopefully win is to cheat better than the other guys. Even if it means the shame of giving our hard-earned money those wh0res in DC.

Money talks. Bullsh!t walks.
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