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Old 09-24-2013, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
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You are a 767 captain who is looking to retire in the next 10 years. It's great that you can look forward to being part of the investment class.

But, you should consider that there are a lot of pilots on our list who are looking at making half of what you make during that time and aren't afforded the opportunity to look at the world through investor colored glasses. For them, the best investment they can make is to insure they upgrade to captain as soon as possible and make sure the company or the union does nothing to slow them to that goal.

Just something to consider....
I get that. However, it appears that we disagree on how to get to he next level. Maybe this will be a good test. Let's say no, tell the company to pack sand and see what happens.

And it is never to early to invest, and you never make to little. (Jim Cramer did it while living in the back of his car) It is a certainty that even the most junior guy on the property can stick a few dollars into a good growth fund. If he can't he really needs to reconsider his priorities. JMHO
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomiezombie
The current language says 5th Freedom between Japan and Asia. The A380 (delivery August 2014) is going to JFK and LHR if they get route authority. That's not 5th freedom FROM Japan TO Asia...?
Nope its not. That 380 will compete with us on the JFK route from what I can tell. Doesn't have any bering on this deal one way or another. (Up or down) Their jets that may someday venture outside of Japan are 737's and my Rep noted that 1E 2.A's 40% restriction applies well before the new code share restriction. Its layered from what he told me. I could not get all of the details as he was going to dinner.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
If my health insurance sucks, I blame my bargaining agent and my company. From what I see, it sucked long before the current guy took office. Maybe we should start owning some things too, huh?
We ain't seen anything yet. Just wait until this disaster is fully implemented. If you need proof, look no further than your national politicians who have exempted themselves from it, and the AFL-CIO who is desperately seeking exemptions. 1/3 of the economy, administered by the IRS... great, great plan.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Mason
Nope its not. That 380 will compete with us on the JFK route from what I can tell. Doesn't have any bering on this deal one way or another. (Up or down) Their jets that may someday venture outside of Japan are 737's and my Rep noted that 1E 2.A's 40% restriction applies well before the new code share restriction. Its layered from what he told me. I could not get all of the details as he was going to dinner.
Okeedookie. So, we agree that it's not 5th freedom flying per the section in question. Why is Carl throwing the Skymark towel in?
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler



Not that you could get any worse at people skills, but when you keep parroting that tired old ALPA talking point of calling anyone "emotional" if they disagree with you, it just shows you can't debate.
Just like your guys refer to those that don't agree with them as "shills" and "cheerleaders". You're right though. I should take the high road on that, and I will endeavor to do so from here on.



Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Absolutely we would back DALPA's decision on it because management says they need to do it anyway. Why give them the added gift of keeping code share?
And if they pull down flying? Doesn't that further your group's agenda? Because as we all know your guys are infinitely tougher than the ones we have representing us now.


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You and I get to think like the "investor class" because we had some good years in which to save money to invest. Lots of younger people here won't have the chance we had if we keep selling their future with scope degradation. Pretty selfish thinking on your part tsquare.

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I have been investing since college because my father instilled in me the need to do that. Even when I was a starving apprentice architect in the early 80s, I always put something back. It was great advice, and I am just trying to pass that along to those that are complaining about our lot in life. If they choose to take that advice, then I will have done my part to help. If not... that is a choice too. But there is NOBODY that makes as much as we (pilots) do... all the way down to the newhire 717FO that cannot put $50 a month into a growth fund. We cannot think like you did Carl because there is no DB for anybody anymore (except you). If they don't take care of it, nobody else will. If that is selfish, then I am guilty as charged.

As to "selling" scope. I agree. Let's tell the company to pack sand and see what happens. But since we are on the subject... again... why don't you explain to me what the leverage is besides a clause in the contract that will require the company to pull down that codeshare? Can you guarantee that the company CAN fill those seats, and the resulting lost revenue with DAL airplanes? Is there enough traffic there to do so? MAke the case. I'll listen.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Sure would feel nice to say "no", though. Just once.
Is that a strategy?
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Is that a strategy?
Can't be any worse than "constructive engagement" and Moakism.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:48 PM
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Sooo, as an aside...does anyone know the rule on assigning short call? I'm on long call today and tomorrow, and they just called me at 8:30pm base time for a noon short call tomorrow? In almost 6 years of reserve, never had this happen before and thought there was a rule about assigning short calls by 1500 base time. There is plenty of manning tomorrow and the two previously assigned guys for short call tomorrow at 0530 and 1100 haven't been used....any ideas?
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Scambo,

Well look at it this way. Narita scope was 316 slots. That's some of our Pacific flying. We now have scope on all of our Pacific flying.

Would you rather own half a pie, or, would you rather own 85% of a pie which is twice the size?

Council 60 published that Narita was 116,000 block hours. Asia PAC is 214,000. If the choice is THIS or THAT, then I want 85% of the pie that is nearly twice as large and growing.
Interjecting facts into the emotional argument? Heresy! This is the FORUM!
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
The republicans will never win a national election again because 50% of the country receives a handout.

Eventually, Atlas will shrug and handouts will end because the debt is unsustainable.

Completely apolitical and no names called.

And when they learn to do math and figure the only to continue the Ponzi scheme is to steal our 401(k)s and change the rules on ROTH IRAs, there will be a giant sucking sound of wealth going offshore.

At least you and I agree on SOMETHING.
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