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The 3% difference in retirement is small change compared to the ongoing funding requirements to maintain the NWA frozen pension. No Delta S pilot will share in the money that has to go into that account yet after 2012 everyone gets the same DC. Is that fair? There are dozens of areas in the joint contract where you can find inequities on both sides. Get over it. The JCBA is long done and ratified. Start planning on how to fill out your contract survey for 2012.
The 3% difference in retirement is small change compared to the ongoing funding requirements to maintain the NWA frozen pension. No Delta S pilot will share in the money that has to go into that account yet after 2012 everyone gets the same DC. Is that fair? There are dozens of areas in the joint contract where you can find inequities on both sides. Get over it. The JCBA is long done and ratified. Start planning on how to fill out your contract survey for 2012.
Funny, what was the votes for/against the JCBA?
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The 3% difference in retirement is small change compared to the ongoing funding requirements to maintain the NWA frozen pension. No Delta S pilot will share in the money that has to go into that account yet after 2012 everyone gets the same DC. Is that fair? There are dozens of areas in the joint contract where you can find inequities on both sides. Get over it. The JCBA is long done and ratified. Start planning on how to fill out your contract survey for 2012.
I can comprehend why you think paying fNWA pilots with frozen pensions 3% less to make up for their frozen pension payments. Why do you think it's fair to pay fNWA pilots who don't have frozen pensions 3% less?
So if we were to hire, you're saying new hires deserve a better retirement plan than post 9/11 fNWA pilots?
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I agree that we should ALL move on, but the guys that got hosed on the longevity raises were JR DAL-N guys on probation that couldn't even vote on the JCBA. We are once again being punished to help the senior guys.
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"You're lucky to be a Delta pilot!"
They would probably answer that the fNWA pilots had a much better deal in February 2008. They passed it up so they could have their arbitration. That had costs and now you are paying those costs. Nothing in life is free, I hope it was worth it. There is not too much sympathy in the south, because it cost us 2% in pay for 4 years. Say "no" and it will always get better, right? Oh wait, sometimes it gets worse.
Move on, The civil war is over....
You've got exactly what you brought to the table. It takes money to bring you up in every area. You could always just quit and attempt to get rehired. IF Delta hired you, you'd get their longevity and DC rules.
In fact, given the lopsided nature of the vote, it's tough to make the argument that anyone got thrown under the bus--
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