Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-14-2013, 06:09 PM
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NWA used to do them on the DC-9. They actually went really senior, and reserves rarely ended up flying them. I don't really remember exactly why the senior guys liked them so much...I think we got paid 2x min day for them, but that was Pre-bankruptcy.
09-14-2013, 06:16 PM
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09-14-2013, 06:22 PM
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09-14-2013, 06:26 PM
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09-14-2013, 06:26 PM
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They could be made to work, but, would require a lot of thought and negotiation to be done safely and pay well enough. Considerations:
(1) Safety - fatigue
(2) Safety - a lot of nontowered airport stuff
(3) Safety - Temp / Dewpoint spread at it's lowest, more diverts
(4) Safety - some sort of compensatory rest + limitation on how many could be scheduled.
(5) Min time behind door (6:00 makes these doable with an afternoon nap)
(6) PAY -
Daily credit applied calendar day, or
ALV + if line of CDO's = < ALV
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If we are going to recover express type flying, this is the type flying a lot of them do.
Just some ideas.
(1) Safety - fatigue
(2) Safety - a lot of nontowered airport stuff
(3) Safety - Temp / Dewpoint spread at it's lowest, more diverts
(4) Safety - some sort of compensatory rest + limitation on how many could be scheduled.
(5) Min time behind door (6:00 makes these doable with an afternoon nap)
(6) PAY -
Daily credit applied calendar day, or
ALV + if line of CDO's = < ALV
----
If we are going to recover express type flying, this is the type flying a lot of them do.
Just some ideas.
09-14-2013, 06:28 PM
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09-14-2013, 06:32 PM
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The Bus used to have them too. MSP-FAR one of the most senior as it payed almost 7 hours with less than 2 hours flying. I don't think they are worth as much now as they were under NWA. Way back when, you could bid an entire line of them on the 727.
09-14-2013, 06:39 PM
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We don't have a special rig for them and the company doesn't schedule them. I'd rather not let that cat out of the bag as I routinely ran into junior NW crews that had been assigned them on rsv. They are fatiguing and horrible. If the cat is let out of the bag (bad idea), it had better pay more than NW paid for it to keep it highly limited in use.
09-14-2013, 06:50 PM
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Personally, I hope we never see high speeds/CDOs/Stand-up/illegals again.
09-14-2013, 06:50 PM
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We don't have a special rig for them and the company doesn't schedule them. I'd rather not let that cat out of the bag as I routinely ran into junior NW crews that had been assigned them on rsv. They are fatiguing and horrible. If the cat is let out of the bag (bad idea), it had better pay more than NW paid for it to keep it highly limited in use.
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