Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-30-2013, 05:48 PM
Da Hudge
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Nope. That's what it was sold as, but the first measurement period isn't until January.
08-30-2013, 05:51 PM
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Nobody that I've ever spoken to or whose words I've read has ever stated their support for decertifying ALPA was because of anything Mr. Caplinger has ever said. It's been for any number of various reasons experienced by each individual personally.
Since you've mentioned offensiveness, you should realize that by your comments above, you're stating your belief that thousands of your fellow pilots have signed DPA cards to avenge harm done to Mr. Caplinger.
Carl
Since you've mentioned offensiveness, you should realize that by your comments above, you're stating your belief that thousands of your fellow pilots have signed DPA cards to avenge harm done to Mr. Caplinger.
Carl
That's sure to unite the pilot group.
08-30-2013, 05:53 PM
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08-30-2013, 06:19 PM
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The measurement period has nothing to do with the ratio of 76 seaters to 717s. It measures the amount of 50 seaters to 76 seaters.
08-30-2013, 06:20 PM
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08-30-2013, 06:29 PM
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No. That's what the cntract states. Please reference me to where in our contract it states that the company may take delivery of 76 seaters over 153 before taking delivery of 1.25 717s.
The measurement period has nothing to do with the ratio of 76 seaters to 717s. It measures the amount of 50 seaters to 76 seaters.
The measurement period has nothing to do with the ratio of 76 seaters to 717s. It measures the amount of 50 seaters to 76 seaters.
Or would you like to tell these guys as they delivered the first new one today:
Pinnacle (9E) #3265 ? 30-Aug-2013 ? CYMX - KMSP Flight Tracker ? FlightAware
08-30-2013, 06:30 PM
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I'll give you guys a nudge. Sec 1.46.f exception 1
Read that, & then cut and paste where it says what you're claiming. I'd paste the language here, but I'm on my phone and it's a pain. Sorry.
Read that, & then cut and paste where it says what you're claiming. I'd paste the language here, but I'm on my phone and it's a pain. Sorry.
08-30-2013, 06:32 PM
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Sorry, first measurement period isn't until January. Yet another loophole tht was neglected to be effectively communicated during the sales job.
Or would you like to tell these guys as they delivered the first new one today:
Pinnacle (9E) #3265 ? 30-Aug-2013 ? CYMX - KMSP Flight Tracker ? FlightAware
Or would you like to tell these guys as they delivered the first new one today:
Pinnacle (9E) #3265 ? 30-Aug-2013 ? CYMX - KMSP Flight Tracker ? FlightAware
08-30-2013, 06:33 PM
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I think Johnson might be right on this but it should definitely be resolved.
Once again referencing Negotiators Notepad 5-12:
Delivery of additional 76-seat aircraft is prohibited until SNB aircraft are first added to
the mainline fleet, and then, a simultaneous reduction of 50-seat aircraft is required. This
is an event-based process and not time or date-based. As Delta implements their
business plan and adds more SNBs, only then may they add more 76-seat aircraft, while
also removing 50-seat aircraft. Once a 50-seat aircraft is removed, the number of
allowable 50-seat aircraft is capped at that level until the next removal and so on. That
cap can then never increase.
Event based with no date attached. I looked in the Live Contract but could not find this - I did see the 2014 date mentioned with Block hour ratios but not in regard to small NB vs. additional 76 seaters.
Scoop
Once again referencing Negotiators Notepad 5-12:
Delivery of additional 76-seat aircraft is prohibited until SNB aircraft are first added to
the mainline fleet, and then, a simultaneous reduction of 50-seat aircraft is required. This
is an event-based process and not time or date-based. As Delta implements their
business plan and adds more SNBs, only then may they add more 76-seat aircraft, while
also removing 50-seat aircraft. Once a 50-seat aircraft is removed, the number of
allowable 50-seat aircraft is capped at that level until the next removal and so on. That
cap can then never increase.
Event based with no date attached. I looked in the Live Contract but could not find this - I did see the 2014 date mentioned with Block hour ratios but not in regard to small NB vs. additional 76 seaters.
Scoop
08-30-2013, 06:35 PM
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Those 900s are still flying in DL colors... I believe for Expressjet.
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